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It's a tough decision that every American mother of a baby boy has to make: to circumcise or not circumcise?  Opponents claim that it's akin to mutilation.  Proponents cite studies showing the health benefits of circumcision.  Still others have strong cultural ties to the procedure.  Daphne Brogdon of Cool Mom asks the panelists, "What do you think about circumcision?"

 

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I did not have my son circumcised--we had no cultural reason to do it and it seemed like an unnecessary risk, after hearing stories from my coworker of stubborn bandages that would not fall off. As for health reasons, the case is about 50/50 and more and more boys are remaining in tact--I think the majority of baby boys born on the west coast are uncircumcised and it's nearing 50% on the east coast. So I don't think "fitting in" will be an issue. But thank you for discussing the emotions that all new moms have toward their precious baby boys!

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Wed, 2010-03-03 17:41

 

It wasn't until I saw this that I decided to do some research on circumcision. I still don't know if I'm having a boy or girl this September, but when we decided to get pregnant my husband and I briefly discussed it and thought "Sure, why not.'

I must say after doing just a little research on this topic my opinion (and my husbands) has been drastically changed. There is no way on earth I would have my son circumcised! Never, never, never.

Studies show now it is completely unnecessary. There are NO benefits at all. Its very painful, very traumatic. It is a worn-out religious practice with no medical benefit.

All mothers, please educate yourself before you make ANY permanent or drastic decisions about your baby!

Mon, 2010-03-01 05:54

 

We decided against circumcision for our son for a number of reasons, but the biggest being that my husband is from Italy, where circumcision is not a regular practice. And my hubby is doing just fine. (America seems to be the only country where circumcision is the norm.) The other major reason is that it seems to be an unnecessary surgery. If he was born with foreskin, why chop it off? Mother nature usually knows what she is doing. Then, there is also the argument removing the nerve endings from his genitals....My baby is four months old, and there have been no problems with infection or uncleanliness. Regular bathing seems to work great.

Wed, 2010-02-24 11:58

 
Lola2

I am a RN and I assisted, for the first time, recently with the circumcsion of a neonate male. I had to fight back tears as I "held" this male baby and very quickly made it clear that I would risk losing my job rather than participate in that "procedure" again. However the part that was the hardest was returning the baby to his mother, her face begged me to tell her it all wasnt that bad and it was fine and I did that. But inside I knew that if she saw what just happened to her child she would be on the floor in the fetal position howling. Please, before you decide if you wish to do this to your baby, watch one and then see if you can do it. And if you still want to do except its your decision and dont make them face it on their own, they need you.

Tue, 2010-02-23 20:23

 
MonaGram

As painful as it is, the baby will not remember and in the long run, it is a much healthier choice. I think that you are doing your son a favor, by taking his longterm health into account.

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Sun, 2010-02-21 14:59

 

The baby won't remember it? Babies grow up. He'll figure out what you did to him.

What do you suggest if he doesn't agree that you did him a favor by excising his erogenous tissue without a prior request from him?

Thu, 2010-02-25 00:42

 
Don

If you choose to get a tatoo, or a piercing, or a face lift, its your choice. I think its wrong to modify your sons genitals. If he wants to make the decision when he's an adult, well at least it was his choice. Yes i was cut as as a infant, and i always felt different because of it. One of my friends was normal and it made me feel kind of ashamed of myself and my parents because I was cut and he wasn't. Im not a fag, just learned i was different when we were pissing in the woods and saw his dick,(around 12 yrs old). I asked my mom why I looked different and she told me my foreskin was removed because it would'nt retract. Now I'm 26 and have learned a newborns foreskin should not be F@#ked with, you leave it alone and such. WAS it the hospitals way for making $$$$,?? well either way,i do like my penis and i kringe when i think of someone taking a knife to it or hearing about other babies who are also healthy and have their foreskins removed. Yeah i've also read the horror stories out there on the net, although there not typical, why bother taking the risk? I think America has become so custom to circumcision we train ourselves to believe its normal, when in fact its totally unnatral. If it was a girl WOULD you circumsise her?? kinda the same reason as a boy.. or is it?

Fri, 2010-02-19 00:41

 
Jacob Duchaine

Yes, circumcision is wrong.

Even if it had health benefits, whether or not to remove healthy genital tissue from infants male or female is not a decision that a parent can ethically make for a child.

Virtually no one would argue in defense of female circumcision, which removes 8,000 or less nerve endings from the genitals of a daughter. But for whatever reason, people fervently defend their right to remove 15,000 nerves (More than 66% of all male genital nerves)from their sons.

People are so wrapped up in their own right to choose for their children, they forget that it should be the child's choice. When he gets older, he can decide for himself whether or not to be circumcised. In the meantime, he's more likely to get male breast cancer than Penile cancer, and children are very unlikely to get HIV, much less so from sex, and use of a condom will be much more effective than circumcision.

Castration reduces the chance of HIV by 99%, the chance of testicular cancer by 100%, is much more aesthetically pleasing than the wrinkled prune sack, is much easier to clean since there's no testicles, and if some tissue is stored, the person will still be able to reproduce. And there are no studies proving that it reduces sexual satisfaction, either. This is an argument in favor of castrating infants? No, that's silly. However, it's identical to the pro-circumcision argument.

Wed, 2010-02-17 12:11

 
lyssa

this is just too funny to read, first of all more than half the people that are for circumcision was because of health issues, not because of looks and thats what everyone turned it into, they go on what people have said to them and they have every right to make their decisions for their child, You are all probably the same liberals who are for abortion but not for circumcision, idiots. How dare any of you try to put parents down for what they believe is best for their child. i am not even a parent and i am appalled. you are grown people putting eachother down about their parenting skills, how would you feel for someone to attack you for not cutting the foreskin? what if your child grows up hating you beacuse they cant stand the fact that they feel dirty. My boyfriend wasnt circumsized until he was in elementary school and is scarred by thepain he went through and wished hed gotten it when he was an infant, i know many doctors that numb the area so for everyone who thinks it screws with the brain when they are youngare ridiculous.

Tue, 2010-02-16 11:52

 

My husband wasn't circ'd, he is from Europe. He felt strongly about not, so I agreed with him. And then after I thought about it more and more -- I think it's barbaric and it's like cutting off the end of your pinky.

We don't circ little girls why should we circ little boys.

Sun, 2010-02-14 21:01

 
Anonymous

every boy deserves a circumcission for health reasons. we have 5 boys and the first 2 we left uncircumcised and they had all kinds of infections and problems starting at less than 1 month old. So we decided to circumcise the remaind 3 at birth and have had no problems at all. What little pain they experienced was nothing compared to what the younger 2 have had to endure. They older 2 are 17 and 16 when they received their circumcisions and it was definently worse for them. to all mothers please have your sons circumcised as infants

Sat, 2010-02-13 05:14

 
Jacob Duchaine

If they were getting infections right and left, either your genes really suck, or you were pulling back their foreskin to clean under it. Infant males foreskins are attached to the glans. Parents who pull back the foreskin cause a lot of ripping and infections.

Circumcision removes 66% or more of genital nerves. Would you like to be able to feel only 33% or less of sex? Cause I like feeling 100% of my sex. I'm sure your sons would, too.

Wed, 2010-02-17 12:16

 

I'm assuming you live in the U.S. since the rest of the world just doesn't have these kinds of problems. Don't try to open up their stuff before it comes loose. Just wash the outside with soap that doesn't burn your eyes. Leave it up to them to gradually loosen it themselves as they mature. It takes years—sometimes when they're toddlers, sometimes when they're teenagers—for the foreskin to come loose.

Every boy and man deserves a whole penis unless he himself requests that a chunk be cut off.

Sat, 2010-02-13 23:37

 
BethRN

I don't have any kids yet, but as a registered nurse, it is impossible for me to advocate for a medically, unnecessary procedure that inflicts excrutiating pain on newborn baby boys. While past studies have shown to decrease the rate of UTI in circumcised males,the rates rae NOT statistically significant for the AAP to recommend this. Should we really be inflicting this much pain on our 1000s baby boys for the sake of the 1 that may develop a UTI later in life? Dads-why are you so for wanting your sons to "look the way you do"? Did you know that the complications that can arise from this procedure may actually result in your son NOT looking the way you do anyway? I would strongly urge parents contemplating this decision to actually view a circumcision procedure-numerous ones are available online as then will you only be give "informed consent". Don't just sign away your baby without knowing this crucuial information to make a properly informed decision.

Fri, 2010-02-12 10:42

 
BethRN

I also wanted to point out that whether circumcised or not, he is STILL going to have to clean the area-just basic hygiene and much less painful. The conditions surrounding uncircumcision and infection are related to improper hygiene.

Bottom line, don't sign on the dotted line without being FULLY informed of the risks (lots) and benefits (none). Look at the statistics, then do the math. Chances are, your son may be undergoing a painful, unnecessary procedure that you the parent have authorized. Is it worth the pain and trouble to have your son look like you? He may not have your eyes and ears, so should we surgically change that as well? And yes, there are nerve endings in the forskin that when manipulated, can elicit a pain response in a baby when not properly anesthatized (sp?).

Moms that are reading this-make an EDUCATED decision about this matter. This decision is permanent and has the potential to negatively affect him for the rest of his life.

Fri, 2010-02-12 11:48

 

As a mom to 2 young boys in BC, Canada - and in my early thirties, I am surrounded by friends and relatives who are also having babies. Circumcision simply isn't on the table for discussion amongst my peers. It isn't done, period. It would be like discussing whether or not to send our baby to the pet store or something equally ridiculous. That's how far from "routine" this has become where I live, and our brothers and fathers were all circumcised. It isn't discussed in the hospital after you have your baby and it isn't discussed once you get home. The thought of taking a knife to your healthy, perfect, newborn baby is so crazy it doesn't even sit on the table for discussion.

Sun, 2009-12-20 09:00

 

The day after my first daughter was born, I went to get a bucket of ice out of the "parent's room" at the hospital, and accidentally walked in on the circumcision of a baby.
He was strapped down in a plastic mold and screaming bloody murder.
I began uncontrollably convulsing, and fell to the floor in tears.

I don't believe that parents who circumcise their children are abusive, I believe they have the best interest of the child at heart but I do think the act itself is abusive. Yes...I do think that cutting off a part of a baby's body is abusive.

I wish people were better educated about it and I wish people could see how irrelevant it is in religion.
There are people all over the world doing things for religious reasons, things that we as North Americans recognize as archaic and hurtful. I wish we would look at some of our own practices the same way.

I'm quite confident that there is no god in existence who honestly cares if boys have foreskin or not.

Mon, 2009-12-14 06:17

 

I think circumcision is something that should only be done for religious reasons, me being a atheist if i had a son of course he would be keeping his banana peel. I wish i had mine, it feels humiliating to not believe in something, yet my body has been modified for that goofy wacky religion. I have one thing to say about parents who never want their son to get tattoos/piercings and the like! they only have a true right to discourage that if they left the boy uncircumcised to begin with, otherwise it is just hypocritical.!

Fri, 2009-12-04 18:44

 

Soap,

You say it should only be done for religious reasons, but then you say you feel humiliated that it was done to you for religious reasons.

When someone justifies cutting children on the grounds of religion, they're talking about the religion of one or both parents, not the religion of the baby. Babies aren't particularly religious.

Sat, 2009-12-05 23:47

 

From where I come from.. this topic is not even up for discussion.. its like EVERY BOY MUST BE CIRCUMCISED.... like there is no other option.. so we really dont have this discussion here.. makes it easier for us i suppose :)
-faraz from blu ray ripper

Thu, 2009-11-12 11:03

 

Do men really need any more sensations in sex? All the circumsized guys I have beenw ith - done in 3 seconds, I can't imagine having MORE sensation. Okay all kidding aside.

Oh this was a big conversation between Hubby and I..he was pro Circ, I was against. He was circumsized at the age of 25. So he really has been on both sides of the fence.

He was not a dirty boy at all, but was always having issues with urinary tract infections throughout his childhood - the Doctor attributed it to his not being circumsized. He had all sort of issues with it both cosmetically and healthwise. He wondered why his penis did not look like anyone else's, etc... He did all the research. At the age of 25 he made the decision to be circumsized. I figured if anyone was an expert on our son's penis, it was him.

He said there is no less feelings between being done and not done. He does however not have anymore urinary tract infections- which made him very happy, lol....I don't know, unless you HAVE a penis, you can't really have an opinion on it..that ebing said, I do believe this is NOT the same as female circumcision from what I have read and researched and talked to people about, I would not want it or would not do it to my daughters...this is a hrd fence to be on.

Fri, 2009-10-30 16:39

 

My husband and I decided to circumcise our sons. My husband did not view it as much different than orthadontia. I won't be jailing my parents anytime soon because of my straight teeth. I was shocked to see how many comments there were on the subject.

Wed, 2009-10-28 20:40

 

the same as orthadontia? Really? You are joking right?

Sun, 2010-02-14 21:02

 

Nope.

Mon, 2010-02-15 17:02

 

While I can understand and even sympathize both sides....in the end it's just true, what seems best for your family/beliefs/understanding is what you choose. There is no wrong or right on this one. Just like to stay home as a mom or to go to work...it's whatever is best for your family. To pull a tooth or not to pull it...some people wait and see and other just choose to pull it straight away.

However, I did know one poor fella growing up and he was not circumcised...it came up in a teen-age conversation and he was truly tormented by it internally. He eventually convinced his parents to have it done for him when he was a teenager; which was much worse because he remembers it and the recovery took days not hours like in birth but even then he had no regrets about doing it. Like some of you, his parents did what they thought was best, turned out it was NOT what was best for him.

I have four sons all were circumcised. Our families reasoning - because their Dad was. I let my husband lead the way on this decision/discussion. I agreed to it because, like some of the other mothers I felt like their "equipment" should match their Dad's...for self-esteem issues etc. My husband said anyone he knew growing up, or in the military, or at the gym had a difficult time with women, with dating, with self-image and relating to other men. Because there were no mental or emotional trauma's or physical ones for that matter I saw no harm and in fact felt I was doing what was best for them.

Men have a much stronger opinion on this one than we do and for good reason. I think we should follow their lead - I certainly would not go against my husband's wishes on this one nor would I think he would go against mine if it were a "female" issue. With that said, I wouldn't want my son to be that teenage boy who desperately wanted to be circumcised and wasn't nor would I want them to endure the emotional/mental pain and anguish he was in. And, funny...I've never heard of any guy complaining about being circumcised? Hmmmmm

Wed, 2009-10-14 14:23

 

Fit Mama, you say you cut four boys so their equipment would match their dad's, in consideration of self-esteem issues. Well, whose esteem are we talking about here?

You also say you've never heard of any guy complaining about being circumcised. Why do you suppose this topic is so controversial? Look around.

Your teenage friend wanted to get cut, and so he got himself cut. That's as it should be (except for the cruelty that led him to be internally tormented over having a complete set of human genitalia). Having cut your four boys without a prior request by them, there's a significant chance at least one of them will grow up to wish you hadn't done that. But instead of taking days to recover... well... you know.

Wed, 2009-10-14 16:17

 
lyssa

probably the childs self esteem, because through potty training years they are going towant to know why they dont look like their dad, what is wrong with their penis?! How come the kids at school have different penis'? ever thought of that.

this is just too funny to read, first of all more than half the people that are for circumcision was because of health issues, not because of looks and thats what everyone turned it into, they go on what people have said to them and they have every right to make their decisions for their child, You are all probably the same liberals who are for abortion but not for circumcision, idiots. How dare any of you try to put parents down for what they believe is best for their child. i am not even a parent and i am appalled. you are grown people putting eachother down about their parenting skills, how would you feel for someone to attack you for not cutting the foreskin? what if your child grows up hating you beacuse they cant stand the fact that they feel dirty. My boyfriend wasnt circumsized until he was in elementary school and is scarred by thepain he went through and wished hed gotten it when he was an infant, i know many doctors that numb the area so for everyone who thinks it screws with the brain when they are youngare ridiculous.

Tue, 2010-02-16 11:55

 

You might want to ease up on the copy-and-paste there, Lyssa.

So let's see here...

You think it's humorous that not everyone agrees about what looks better. You're concerned that a little boy's self-esteem can be damaged by seeing that his father's penis isn't all there but his own is. You are in favor of infant circumcision but opposed to abortion, because the opposite would be inconsistent. And your boyfriend has been emotionally broken because he had the opportunity to ask for his own circumcision.

Here's a potty-mouth rebuttal to the son-should-match-father angle:

 
 
That attitude is just so clearly meant to protect the father's feelings, not the son's. If it's so important that they match, let the father go out and get his put back together again.

Thu, 2010-02-18 21:44

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