May 11, 2009
There are so many possible choices when giving birth: C-section or vaginal birth? Pain medication or no? Circumcision or not? Then there's little decisions, such as whether you want to listen to music during labor or if you want to take pictures of the delivery. But do you need a written-out plan to have your wishes carried out? Nancy O'Dell of Access Hollywood and author of Full of Life: Mom-to-Mom Tips I Wish Someone Had Told Me When I Was Pregnant joins our panelists in a discussion about birth plans, love 'em or leave 'em.
Did you have a birth plan? Did you stick to it, or did it get tossed aside during your labor? Was it long and involved, or was it merely an oral plan? Or did you not have one? Join the Momversation by commenting.
Read about the birth plan experience of Jenny Motley of Crash Test Mommy in her guest blog: My Birth Plan: How I Took (Birth) Control.
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YES, I did use a birth plan! I think birth plans are very valuable tools. I gave birth nearly a year ago (June). And my plan was only two pages long (and even that because I used large font for easy reading).
I was interested in having the most non-invasive and natural birth I could in a hospital. Most hospitals and doctors are trained to "deliver" babies in a certain way. My birth plan helped easily describe what I wanted.
My husband and I created our birth plan and discussed it with our doctor and our doulas. It included every step of the birthing process and what I wanted: delayed cord clamping, no IVs, no Hep-Loc (which I had to sign a waiver), no pulling on the baby's head, no episiotomy. It also included what I wanted for my newborn: not to remove the vernix, to have my baby placed directly on my bare chest, to delay bathing and weighing until at least one hour after birth, to delay vaccinations, etc. etc. (I did choose to add a section containing food/number of people/music/lights/and the like because, as Heather mentioned, this hospital had 'rules' for those things. By talking to my doctor early - and getting her to SIGN my PLAN - she was agreeing to allow certain things to happen.) We also asked that no one offer me (or my husband, for that matter!) any drugs. :)
At the top of the plan, we also asked for our hospital team to include only people that were excited and comfortable with a natural birthing mama. This was a great help. We got a WONDERFUL nurse that actually CARRIED MY PLAN around in her pocket!! She was fantastic and really took to heart our wishes.
I think the most important part of the birth plan is to open up a converation with your care provider. If Nancy was comfortable with a verbal plan, that's great! It seems she wanted a fairly standard birth. Good for her.
I had certain things that I wanted to see happen during my baby's birth. The plan helped me make those wishes come true. I had a wonderful birth experience.
Heather, I'm so glad that you are writing a birth plan! I think having a vision of your ultimate birth is important to achieving it. TIP: Give your plan to the hospital staff with a plate of BROWNIES!!! Then everyone will read it!
I understand why some women think birth plans are silly. They think the doctor will do only what is best and needed. Hopefully this is the case, but some have been delivering babies one way and one way only for years and might need a written reminder of your wishes. (This is where a doula is SO VALUABLE!! She can be insistant about your plan while you and your husband/partner can focus on the birth at hand!)
Also, for anyone else out there planning a natural birth, be "gentle" with your words. These days so many women seeking a natural birth are thrown into the category of "freak" or "granola" or whatever... I actually heard one of the other nurses say "Oh, it's gonna be a long night." because I chose to walk to my birthing room (instead of in a wheelchair). (She did not attend our birth.) But being pleasant, polite, and POSITIVE (as well as assertive) with your choices can take you far!
Mon, 2009-05-11 06:22
Birth plans are great, so long as you realize it's exactly that...a plan. Life gets in the way of plans, so as long as you're ready to drop your plan and do what is best for your child, you'll be fine!
I was the last of my group of friends to have a baby and had heard all of the wonderful (and not so wonderful) birthing stories. One friend was terribly bitter because she had to have a c-section even after several miscarriages with chromosomal abnormalities - a healthy baby is what's important, right? She felt cheated and was depressed for months about it. I decided that I would step back from my type-A, hyper planner, control freak personality and not set myself up for disappointment when it came to my birthing story.
My doctor provided a brief one page birthing plan that was super easy to complete. Did I want drugs? Sure, if there was time for them. Who did I want present? Hubby and mom. This is easy! Did I want a mirror available? Nope, no thanks! Did I want the baby right away? Umm....make sure she's ok and then give her to me! Pretty cut and dry. My plan was laid out. Vaginal birth if possible, drugs if possible, everything else we'd figure out along the way. Bottom line, as long as I walked away with a healthy baby I would be thrilled!
At 34.5 weeks, she stopped moving. I did everything I was supposed to make her move. Nothing worked. I knew something was wrong and simply couldn't relax. The on call nurse had us go in to the hospital. After several hours of non stress tests, ultrasounds and a bit of Pitocin to see how she did with contractions, the on call doctor determined that she needed to come out. NOW. One emergency c-section later, my tiny little bundle of joy had arrived. All 4 pounds of her. A few weeks in the NICU later, she was home and perfectly healthy. (Turns out, the cord was wrapped nicely around her little neck).
Would I have liked it to be less stressful? Yes. Would I preferred that my family hadn't been scared out of their minds? Of course. Would I liked to have had pictures of her being born? Absolutely. The hospital staff did everything they could do to keep me calm, include my husband at every step and provide amazing care to my child. Given the situation, that's the best we can ask for! And I'm glad my expectations weren't set in stone....or on a 8.5 x 11 piece of paper.
My doctor said, 'had you waited until your appointment (2 days later) we would likely be in a very different situation. I wish more of my patients would listen to their instincts.' Today, I have a gorgeous, spunky and perfectly healthy 3.5 year old who fills my heart, makes my life brighter and is terribly entertaining. That is all that matters to me.
My birth plan for baby #2 = I'd love to have some pictures. :)
Mon, 2009-05-11 07:31
I didn't have a written birth plan. I had a loose version in my head that I wanted to follow, but it didn't work out that way at all. After going into labor, I wasn't progressing as quickly as the hospital staff would have liked, so they suggested giving me Pitocin to speed the process along. I didn't want the Pitocin, but felt very pressured by the nurses. I was told that it was dangerous to be in labor for too long after your water broke and "We really need to get this process going." After being frightened and made to feel like I was making the wrong decision, I agreed to the Pitocin and, all hell broke loose.
I was contracting so hard that it was sending my son's heart rate into distress. My blood pressure kept dipping dangerously low every time they would give me more Pitocin. At one point, my BP dropped to 80/30. After a few very stressful and scary hours of the Pitocin and bad reactions from both me and baby, I still was only dilated to 5 after being in labor for 12 hours. My Dr decided at that point that I would need a c-section b/c of my son's heart rate. The surgery went well, but I didn't get to hold my son for almost 3 hours b/c of the fluid in his lungs that didn't get pushed out since he was delivered by section and didn't travel through the birth canal.
To say the least, I was disappointed with how it turned out. Of course, I can't help but think that if I had stuck to my guns and wasn't bullied into getting the Pitocin, things would have gone differently. Shortly after my son was born, I watch Rikki Lake's documentary, The Business of Being Born, and just cried my eyes out b/c they described my experience exactly. I felt pressured by the staff to make choices I didn't want to make and in turn, it had a negative effect on myself and my baby.
The next time around, I will most certainly have a birth plan. I know for sure that I don't want Pitocin anywhere near my veins.
Mon, 2009-05-11 07:54
If you liked The Business of Being Born, check out Lake and Epstein's new book: "Your BEST Birth."
They are having a live internet Q&A on Wednesday night (the 13th). A parenting group that I work with (www.mamaology.com) is hosting a book release party to watch the Q&A... I'm sure there are other events like this around the country.
Mon, 2009-05-11 16:34
From the perspective of a labor and delivery nurse, I think that birth plans can be a positive and reassuring addition to a woman's experience with childbirth.
It is true that there are a lot of nurses who will roll their eyes when they see the pages of 'plans' come into triage with the, immediately labeled, 'granola' moms-to-be. This is certainly not the right attitude to take towards a birth plan, but I understand why some nurses feel this way.
Some women come in so determined to have what's in their plan carried out, that if any part of the plan veers down another path, then we become the evil and invasive medical staff that ruined everything. The problem is that some people come in without understanding that there are some situations that make what they planned unsafe or not possible.
When I have a patient who brings in a birth plan, I will always sit down and read it with them. If they have taken the time to think through what they would like, then it is my duty to take the time to understand and respect their wishes. I also do my best to carry out their wishes. Every nurse/doctor should. I can see how one may feel a loss of control over their experience once they enter the hospital delivery room. It is YOUR child and YOUR body and so you have every right to want to have a say regarding how you would like things to go.
However, I also read the birth plan with the family to bring a dose of reality to the situation. No, not all people need this 'reality-check', but some do. So as to not encourage false hope that the birth will go exactly as planned, I go through each request. I reassure them that I will do my best to carry out their wishes or remind the doctor to do so, but then I also say "Here are some situations where this may not be possible for the safety of you or your child......" Despite this, I also say that, ultimately, this is your body and your choice.
If you are the type of person that finds a birth plan reassuring, then by all means, make one. If you have a doctor who is willing to take the time to go through it with you, then take the opportunity! This will help you to know and be prepared for the things on your plan that might need changing during the birth. If not, as soon as you get to the hospital, show your nurse and ask them to go through it with you and discuss each request. The point is, don't be too inflexible with it. Labor and delivery can be so unpredictable and every single situation is different with every pregnancy. So have a plan, but be open too!
From my experiences, I have seen so many come in with their birth planned to the hilt, only to be devastatingly disappointed when things just couldn't go their way. That's even after telling them many times that we had to change the plan in order to have a positive outcome. I feel sad for these women.
When I have a baby, this will be my birth plan (based on 7 years of witnessing births):
1. Let me labor and support me as long as I can handle it, but when I say 'Epidural' get me one stat!-Please!
2. I would like a vaginal delivery, if possible. However, if there is any indication that my child is in distress, may get stuck in the birth canal or rip me to shreds coming out from below, I would like a c-section. -Please!
3. Episiotomy- No thanks! But if it looks like, upon crowning, that my kid's head is going to rip me from clitoris to anus, I would like a right-medial lateral cut. -Please!
4. I want to avoid an instrumental delivery at all costs! I would prefer a c-section over a vacuum and a vacuum over forceps. However, if in the last moments of the delivery my baby needs to come out STAT, then do whatever you need to do-safely- to get them out. -Please!
5. Skin-to-skin and leaving the cord uncut for one minute are things I would really like, however, if my baby comes out limp and blue, do not waste a moment. Help them, STAT! -Please!
The rest - music, lighting, labial massage, etc., are mere details. Details that, if you want them, then you should be allowed to have them- so long as they don't interfere with the safe delivery of your precious little baby or with keeping mom as healthy and intact as possible.
Mon, 2009-05-11 08:07
LouEffie, I am sorry to hear about your experience with Pitocin. It can be a very helpful drug, but I have also seen your situation as well.
Out of curiosity, did they try turning the Pitocin off for a while or reducing the dose to see if your baby's distress was eliminated?
Mon, 2009-05-11 08:23
Thanks for your insight. No, they never did. They stopped giving me any more Pitocin, but they never took me off of it or reduced what they had already given me. We asked them and they said that it wouldn't make a difference since administering more seemed to be the culprit that would send his heart rate and my blood pressure into distress.
It was a scary experience. I know some women do just fine on Pitocin, but I'm definitely not one of them. The next time, I'll most certainly steer clear of it.
Leslie
Mon, 2009-05-11 08:38
I kept reading about birth plans in all the books so I went online and printed one out. When I started filling it out I was thinking, this is really complicated. And I got a little anxious. I went to some online forums to ask what people did, and I got an onslaught of "you do NOT need a written birth plan, it's a waste of time" responses. So, I wrote down all the basics: epidural, no epesiotomy, no pitocin, c-section only if necessary, etc. and I went over it with my husband. I talked to my doctor about the pros and cons (I don't know where Maggie delivered, but I too live in San Francisco, and yes I think we have it a lot easier here, docs are way more open to letting things happen naturally). But, I wanted someone to be my advocate in the delivery room since I knew I'd be...preoccupied. And it worked out fine. Just know the basics, and be sure your birth partner and doctor know them too.
I ended up needing forceps, but hadn't thought of that before. But, the doctor very calmly told me after three hours of pushing, you have some other options. And he let me decide what to do. I'm so thankful for that.
Mon, 2009-05-11 08:25
I would guess that you'd *know* if you wanted/needed a birth plan. For example, I wanted to try to go without an epidural, but I did want somebody to tell me if the window of opportunity for using one was about to close, as I've heard people deciding "ok, no more!" and being told it's too late. Similarly, I wanted to be allowed to tear, rather than have an episiotomy, because it's supposed to heal better, etc., so I made sure to specify that.
As for the other silliness on the form, I think it's more to give you things to think about that you might not have (like the music) rather than actually guide your doctor. But it would be helpful if they broke those out -- here's a worksheet for you, and here's a page for things you want to tell your doctor on The Day. Dooce's final points about checking on hospital policies are also apropos, but again, I suspect that most people have little or no plan, and thus don't really worry about coming into conflict -- the default in this country is more passive (I'll do what the doctors tell me to do) than individualistic...
Mon, 2009-05-11 08:32
Heather's point about a birth plan allowing us to know our options is a good one. I didn't do the official birth plan form, but I talked with my OBGYN about what I wanted, and my husband and I did write down what my preferences were just so we could get them clear in our heads. Shared 'em with the doula and left the rest up to the universe.
If I had the opportunity to have another baby, I might prepare myself a bit more than I did the first time around, but in the end (36 hours of labour, epidural at 30 hours, 4 hours of pushing) I had a healthy baby girl and the memory of that 36 hours is thankfully fading into a distant memory.
Mon, 2009-05-11 09:00
I have two perspectives.
As a birthing woman, I think birth plans perhaps are most useful as a tool to understand, educate yourself, and consider all of your options. It helps you to think through the birth experience you wish for. It is ALWAYS understood that it is simply a plan. And plans may deviate. That said, I doesn't hurt to fill one out as a reminder to yourself, your support partner, and the staff.
As a doula, I recommend birth plans for my clients for the above reasons but mostly as a tool for ME. As their doula, I never speak on behalf of my client's wishes but can refer to the birth plan as a way to respectfully remind staff of their wishes. It is a low-stress way to communicate between my client and the hospital staff. That way, I'm not speaking for them nor overstepping boundaries. :)
What's most important in your plan, in my opinion? Strong, educated, loving support people. Your birth team. Get those on board early, develop deep trust, and know you are all on the same page.
Mon, 2009-05-11 09:30
Totally agree with Heather. The value of a birth plan is really felt after something goes wrong. I didn't have an episiotomy (sp?) like Heather. According to my well-practised midwife the 2nd degree tear I received after my first birth could have been left unstitched so that it would heal back where it belonged instead of how the doctor stitched me. It took me a whole year to fully heal. Sex was painful for a loooong time.
In fact, the only things that did not go as planned happened because of medical intervention.
Birth 1: Planned natural birth in hospital.
Birth 2: Home birth in a pool of water, in the livingroom, Canon in D playing during heavy labour (not transition).
Birth 3: Home birth in a pool of water.
Birth 4: Planned epidural in hospital.
Each of those births were what I felt I wanted and needed at the time. I had birth plans, unwritten but communicated with my doctor/midwife and my doula. My doula knew the details and she was my advocate, along with my husband. Except for the back labour, everything went as planned with the water births. The epidural... ya. I thought I was going to die. My blood pressure dropped to 50/30ish and I was about to pass out. The doctor tried a number of drugs in my IV that didn't work. We were in a small town with poor emergency health care and there was no heart defib. The doctor was obviously scared but tried to hide it and I took that as a bad sign. The epidural extended my labour by many hours (I'm usually about 4 hours and this was almost 24). And in the end it hurt like hell anyway. The epidural helped, and I'd do it again, but it sure made me mad that my doctor wasn't prepared for that little side effect.
When I came to I told my husband that he was getting a vasectomy. Though he had been arguing with me about it for weeks, he agreed on the spot. NEVER again. If I want another baby I'm going to buy it next time.
Mon, 2009-05-11 09:39
I don't agree, N with "The value of a birth plan is really felt after something goes wrong". If it goes really, REALLY wrong your birth plan goes out the window and has no value at all - and it shouldn't. IMHO if the baby's life or mom's life is in danger, the medical team should be making the decisions.
I marched in with a birth plan - water birth, cord blood donation, music, no epidural, etc, etc. I marched out very happy that none of my birth plan came to be.
My eldest and I both barely survived his birth. Pre-eclampsia, premature delivery, emergency C-section, CPR for baby, transfer to NICU in another hospital, multiple surgeries (baby), a DVT and PE I barely survived.
My birth plan meant nothing when everything started to go south, but the reading and preparation I had done before on complications was helpful. I knew how serious everything was, what we were facing, what questions to ask and in the end I appreciated how lucky we were.
I didn't care about anything other than both of us getting to go home in the end.
That's the best birth plan to have.
Mon, 2009-05-11 20:51
I had a birth plan, but of course nothing went as planned!
I think having a birth plan is just a good way to think things through--you don't have to actually bring it with you when you're in labor, but if you've looked at one in the weeks leading up to labor, you've probably adapted some of the things into your "plan." For example, would you have otherwise remembered to bring a small stereo with you to play your favorite music if you hadn't seen it listed on the pre-made birth plans on all the birthing sites? It can also help prepare you for things you might not have even thought about--Do you want to cut the cord, hubby? Is an episiotomy for me?
But I'm with you in thinking that those long lists where you check boxes are too much! Our plan was just a Word doc, one-page, with the basics like, "I'd like myself or my husband to ALWAYS be in the presence of our baby." I don't know if that doc helped, but the nurses told my husband to go with them after our son was born (the doc still needed to close me up after the c-section), and I'm grateful for that.
Mon, 2009-05-11 09:43
I had a birth plan too, but only parts of it went as planned:).
I was lucky to have both a midwife and an OBGYN present. My midwife was my epidural...without her, I would have had one STAT! The hospital was wonderful about doing their best to honor whatever they could about the short plan we had (little to no intervention if possible/natural/no epidural/no c-section unless needed/no med students). My husband and I went into it hoping for a smooth delivery, but planning for the worst. That way, if the birth plan was shot to hell, no hearts would be broken. Truly, we just wanted a happy and healthy baby. That was the primary objective! Even though I had to be induced due to sky-high blood pressure, and ended up taking some minor pain-meds, I can't say that I'd change anything about the experience.
What I will say is that in the years since having given birth, I've reconnected with a friend from high school who is an OBGYN resident. Her comments on her facebook account about birth planning moms are always cutting and sarcastic. (as are the replies from other residents) They seem to indicate that the medical profession wants us to simply surrender our bodies to them without question. Now don't get me wrong, had my midwife and OBGYN said either myself or my son were in danger and I needed a c-section, I would have done it without fail. But mothers in labor are not idiots either! I find it highly insulting when we are treated as such. I am just glad that the kind nurses and doctors at the hospital where I delivered treated me with nothing but dignity and respect. I can only hope that the other women out there don't happen to run into doctors like the person whom I know from high school. I can only say that I think her feelings on it will change dramatically once she has children herself.
Mon, 2009-05-11 10:49
Ok, I've had 3 labors. I didn't have any written birth plans, but I still felt I had to fight for my wishes to be followed.
With the first, I was really young and didn't research a lot of things about labor. I knew I didn't want pain relief, but I knew nothing about pitocin, which I happily allowed them to hook me right up with since I was a whole week late and all. All they said was that it would start my labor. They didn't tell me it would take me from 0 to 60 and that my body might not be ready. I labored in "transition" pain for 20 hours and dialated from 2 to 3. I had a very incompetent dr, but my nurses were great and gently talked me into an epidural. My daughter was born 8 hours later.
With my second, I was 10 days overdue and they could tell he was a really big baby, so even though I didn't want to experience pitocin again, I consented to being induced. They started with Cirvadil, but that did nothing, so I cried as they were setting up the pitocin. Again, I would have liked a med free birth, but I learned from my first labor that if I was getting pit, then I was getting an epi. My son was 11lbs, 1 oz, and I really appreciated the dr I had with him. She was in my opinion as non-invasive as possible.
With my 3rd, I was determined, DETERMINED to go into labor on my own. She was 6 days late, but I actually started contracting on my own this time. I walked and walked for 9 hours before heading to the hospital. After I was there 6 hours they wanted to give me pitocin to "speed things up".
I was really irked and told them I wanted to try walking around. I really just wanted to stay in bed and labor, but I felt I had to do something to convince them that I was trying to get this baby out. Thanks to an emergency c-section of twins on my floor, I was left alone for a few more hours and progressed enough that they "let" me keep going on my own. Next they kept losing the heartbeat on the belly strap thing, so they wanted to do a c-section. I was transitioning as they were attempting the spinal tap, and I pushed my daughter out on my side on the c-section table. My third labor was med free, and "natural" but I feel I had to fight for it every step of the way.
If I ever have a 4th, I'll probably stay home for as long as possible, because the pushiness of the medical personell scares me.
Mon, 2009-05-11 11:37
I had a pretty detailed birth plan. It didn't include my music selections, but my doctor and I discussed things like when I would want medication or who I would want with me during which stages of labor. I was so excited because it gave me this sense of control over my birth. My son, apparently, had other plans.
My doctor came in after I'd been in labor for ten hours and decided to break my water. We'd talked about the potential for this and I was already five centimeters so it seemed like a fine idea. Well, she didn't tell me that the real reason they were breaking my water wasn't to speed up my labor, it was to insert and internal fetal monitor since my baby's heart rate was sporadically dropping from 150 to 70. After the first monitor was removed and another was put in because it "wasn't reading right", my doctor looks at me and tells me we're going to deliver the baby now. Twelve minutes later, my son was delivered via cesarean.
When it comes to birth plans, the plan is to get that baby out safely. I still wish I could have delivered naturally, but in those twelve minutes, my only concern was him. Definitely the scariest experience of my life.
Downfall of the emergency c-section: my hospital doesn't allow VBAC. I will have to schedule another c-section next time around, or find another hospital. Hopefully, I'll have another two years to worry about that.
I will say that the c-section rate is scary. The hospital we delivered in has a 40% rate of cesarean delivery. 40%! I had three friends who felt completely robbed of their birthing experience. As far as I'm concerned, unless it's medically necessary and the baby is compromised, there is no reason to not allow a woman to deliver her baby. It should be criminal.
Mon, 2009-05-11 11:49
Yeah, 40% is out of control. In 1998, when I had mine, it was considered scandalous at 25%.
I agree that it's best to think these things through and make sure your husband or whoever is there with you knows your preferences so that they can advocate for you when your social skills wane. Personally, I don't think any of us would have been able to find the music, or the focal bunny, or the Pachelbel in D in all the bustle.
I had few requests: please let me try to tough it out, and I will let you know at 5 centimeters whether I need the epi. After that was in place, it went from tense, angry standoff to amateur hour in about ten minutes. I asked the anesthesiologist if many babies were named after him. I was prepared to fall in love with him on the spot just for the immediate relief.
Also, no sugar water in the nursery, please. If the baby is hungry, let me feed him. And no pacifiers if you can help it - I want to set up the routine and save the binkies for later when we're all familiar with one another.
We were surprised on arrival with our first that I'd been leaking amniotic fluid for days and had to be rushed into an emergency c-section the minute I arrived (unbelievable, mortifying, Keystone Kops routine trying to get sample from my undies to confirm same). So, birth plan—whoosh—out the window.
If you want to VBAC, go somewhere where they support it! My second of three was a VBAC, and it was awesome. Granted, his head was smaller than his siblings' heads, but I am not kidding when I say I pushed three or four times and held him like fifteen minutes later.
Episiotomies? Only when necessary. I was happy that my doctor watched carefully and just nicked one in when it looked about to tear. No biggie.
I wanted to VBAC again with my third, but she went 41 weeks and we had to evict her. The risk of rupture with pitocin after a previous c-section was unacceptably high, so we opted for a section. I'd say the recovery is about equal. Different, but equal.
I'd say hope for the best but don't freak out when it goes completely awry. You will come in pregnant and leave with a baby, no matter how things go in the interim. Keep that in mind and forget the bed jackets, your own pillows, etc. They will only get bloody. Leave anything you like at home, and go with the hospital issue! And don't forget, you can ask for warm blankets whenever you need them. Don't wait for an invitation!
Wed, 2009-05-13 08:13
OMG I've done such a 180 on c sections. Use to think they were barbaric... but now I think labor is. I really wasted time, energy and money trying to avoid one. As long as the kid is healthy who cares. Frankly recovering from one the second time was much easier than the first. And as my mom said if you can avoid the pain of labor, do it ( she had two natural births). We really need a third way... zipper?
Wed, 2009-05-13 15:02
I definitely think that making a plan is important, but as most of the women have said you need to be ready to change plans if necessary. My Father works at an Respiratory Therapist, so he is present at births to attend to mom and babies respiratory needs. He's expressed his distaste for birth plans in the past because many parents who have come in with plans over the years don't realize that this isn't a to-do list this is a changing and evolving process. He's seen Drs get in arguments with yuppie fathers with plan in hand, and the Dr tells them, your baby will die, your plan no longer applies. I think ultimately it's more important that you and your dr/midwife are on the same page, and that you're as informed as possible about the process.
PS everyone should watch the Business of Being Born it's a great movie.
Mon, 2009-05-11 12:49
I think knowing the hospital's policies and standards greatly inform your need for a birth plan. Our hospital is very progressive and "What do YOU want" about things, so in general I wasn't too worried about being forced into something I wasn't interested in. If our hospital weren't so progressive I might have been much more proactive about voicing my desires for minimal interventions.
I also think that while you may not need to write out a specific birth plan, it's good to know what the different options are that are available and different things that may happen so that you can think through how and when you might need them. Had it not been for reading about birth plans and attending our hospital's tour I might never have thought to ask if I could be on a telemetry monitor and labor in the tub. And dear god, the tub was the only thing that got me through transition.
As it was, our hospital actually has a white board in each room in which the encourage you to write what "Excellent care means to you" so that the staff can work to achieve that. Whether it's: GIVE ME THE DAMN DRUGS or Leave me alone and let me do my own thing or Holy Crap breastfeeding is hard, PLEASE HELP.
Thus, our birth plan was: "We're aiming for as few interventions as possible and no drugs unless requested. Mom and Dad deal with stress through humor and sarcasm." That last little bit was so that they didn't take us seriously when we started making snide comments.
And without a birth plan I was able to have an all-natural drug-free birth and the only thing I'd change about the experience was to request a different overnight nurse than that Nurse Ratchett that insisted on being a Chatty Cathy at 4:30 in the freaking morning.
Mon, 2009-05-11 13:00
I have been happy to be a passive voyeur on this site, but this conversation moves me to comment. I'm actually surprised that most of the speakers in today's video seemed to find birth plans pretty ridiculous. For me, it was critical.
If you are a considering a drug-free or low-intervention birth, you need a birth plan. That birth plan needs to be written out, reviewed with your doctor, and a signed copy brought with you to the hospital. That is because many of the things you may want/need to labor successfully will run contrary to hospital policy or preferred procedure. The signed birth plan puts you, the delivery staff, and your doctor on the same page.
Specifying that you want the lights dim may sound silly and contrite, until you realize that the difference between a calm dark room and a brightly lit one, are the difference between you being able to concentrate and focus on your body's work or not. Pregnant women are sensitive to taste, smells, and everything else. The laboring woman is the same. Different things work for different women. And different things do not.
Also, constructing a birth plan forces you to actually think about what you want before you're doing the hard work of labor. It makes you have what can be an uncomfortable conversation (asking for what you want), before you're half naked and vulnerable. And yes, that includes simple things like "I want to wear my own clothes instead of a hospital gown" and "I'd like be able to eat and drink while laboring." Most women take their ability to these things for granted, until they are in the throes of labor and being told "No" repeatedly.
That said, yes, of course, the birth plan is a set of guidelines, not a set of commandments. Although I experienced unexpected complications following delivery, I am quite happy that my labor and delivery went almost exactly to plan (two exceptions: my doctor manually broke my water; and the cord had to be cut immediately, because it was wrapped around the baby's neck). If it were not for my drafting the birth plan and discussing it with my doctor, I'm not sure I would have wound up having the birthing experience I wanted. Instead, I sat on a birthing ball wearing my own clothes, drinking gatorade, and listening to music from own iPod, while moaning through each contraction in the dark.
Mon, 2009-05-11 13:24
I discussed my desires with my doctor prior to my delivery. Things like wanting to avoid a c-section if possible, who I wanted in the room with me and how I felt about having an epidural. I didn't feel like it was necessary to write anything down.
Like most deliveries, mine was nothing like I had planned. I passed a massive kidney stone (the size of the end of my pinkie finger) two days prior to my son's birth. It did so much damage that I was put on a Morphine pump after 4 shots of Demerol were deemed useless. I stayed on the morphine pump for 24 hours. When they tried to wean me off the Morphine, I was still in so much pain that my doctor had me switched to a surgical grade epidural. After another 24 hours, my doctor decided that I had had enough and that it was time to have the baby. She put me on Pitocin (I was only dilated to 1/2 cm) and broke my water. My son was born 5 hours later. I never felt a single labor pain.
Would I have liked things to go differently? Yes. I could have definitely done without the kidney stone. The pain was unbelievable. Another thing I would have changed was the insane amount of narcotics I had before my son's birth. As a rule, I try to avoid taking medication if it's at all possible. In the moment, I was thrilled with the Morphine pump.
If I am ever blessed with another child, I will feel like it's my first delivery all over again. I don't think that I will ever write out a massive birth plan. I know enough to know that the best laid plans don't always turn out the way we want.
Mon, 2009-05-11 16:23
Waste of time! Not having a "birth plan" is not the same as going into the delivery room with no clue. Obviously you should research all the options and have a clear idea of things that are important to you (natural/epidural, breathing/coping techniques, positions, etc.) But even a planner (like me) should understand that there is NOTHING more unpredictable almost than birth. Want to set yourself up for disappointment? Plan the birth (or your wedding) to a T and then fully expect that it will work out that way.
I know not every doctor is like this, but my doctor wasn't really open to the idea of developing a birth plan. He was certainly open to my priorities, but he didn't want to map it out. I went in with a very open mind, but had things I wanted. Like Maggie, I wanted a natural birth but if it was too much, I was open to drugs. (I had both children drug free.) My 5 year old's birth was by and large pretty standard. My 2 year old's birth was, except that my labor stalled after an entire night and morning of labor to the point where the doctor turned off my pitocin, told me to have lunch and gave me the impression that a c-section could be imminent.
No plan goes out the window more quickly than a birth plan.
Mon, 2009-05-11 16:30
I think if you have a five-page birth plan, you need to reexamine your priorities in life. They're doctors, they're trained professionals there to help you, not part of some evil government conspiracy paid off by the drug companies. If the baby comes out healthy and you live, isn't that what matters?
Mon, 2009-05-11 17:43
A healthy baby IS what matters. True. However, don't you want more for your child? If a woman can experience birthing her child in a healthy and happy environment, the baby has an even better beginning! A baby born to a mama that feels empowered, that feels like she was in control of her moment - that perhaps she even enjoyed the birth... that healthy baby has an even more glorious start.
I had my daughter in a hospital. I love my doctor. Even so, she was/is as a SURGEON. OB/GYNs are trained to think of the worst case scenario. I knew I was a healthy woman with a normal pregnancy. I knew I didn't need all of the medicalized interventions. I had my short birth plan to guide the staff.
My husband and I decided to birth in a hospital - "just in case." (His words, not mine.) But I knew we had to be prepared to stick by our well thought out and 'planned' birth. And we did. Time and time again, medical interventions - like Pitocin - start a chain reaction of other interventions. Some births spiral to an unnecessary C-section. This is a countrywide issue.
Doctors are human beings. They do the best they can. Women need to be AWARE of pregnancy and birth... AWARE of their bodies and aware of what their part of the birthing process is all about. It is the idea that doctors are the trained professionals and the birthing mothers are simply pawns in the game, that leads to unnecessary C-sections, traumatic birth stories, extremely high rates of PPD in America, and occasionally a mother that is so detatched from her child that the relationship is hindered.
But, yes, you are correct... a healthy baby is all that matters.....
Wed, 2009-05-13 06:35
Man plans, god laughs. And I aint religious.
I didn't plan to have The Kid in the UK where it's a battle between the midwives and the docs. The midwives will do just about anything to avoid any intervention of any kind: drugs, tools, cuts, docs...near the end of delivery, the midwives kept shouting at me, "the Drs are standing outside, don't let them come in here. PUSH."
Midwife-led care meant I never had an internal exam or many of the "normal" US things, but it did mean they came to my house to check on me. Which went about like this, "You look well. See you next week." Very, very hands off.
Delivery in the midwife-led unit went like this: stay home, stay home, go home, stay home, oops you need to push, come in I guess. If you want. Knew I'd never get an epi even when I asked in time.
Never wanted my MIL there (but glad she was in the end), didn't plan to cut my bangs without a mirror in the kitchen during labor (not so glad about that). But also didn't plan to recover in a double bed with purple-flowered sheets in a delicate, floral-iron-headboarded bed like at grandma's house circa 1952, where my husband also slept with me the first night in the hospital. That was nice. Didn't plan to have midwives come to my house as often as I wanted for as long as I wanted after I had The Kid. Sunday, 8am, after desperate 6am phone call because I was so unwell, for example. And had we stayed in the UK, would have had 4 years of someone to come to the house to check on us if we needed.
All free. Zero cost. Not one penny. Now that's a plan I can get behind.
Mon, 2009-05-11 19:26
I had a birth plan and I believe it is the reason I had such a great childbirth experience. It was only one page and stuck to the things that were most important to me. I discussed it with my midwives beforehand and they helped me understand where I might run into problems with hospital policies. It really helped me to go in knowing what things I might have to give up.
I did my research and I knew the risks for both sides. I knew that every intervention upped my risk for a c-section and I knew that I didn't want to end up with major surgery. My main goal was not to refuse everything but to require them to ask me before they did things to me. That seems perfectly fair to me. I get that childbirth can require intervention but it's not a dangerous process by nature.
Discussing your wishes with your doctor/midwife is great but they may not be the one that attends your birth. I think the written birth plan is key for anyone, no matter what kind of birth they want. In the 24 hours between being admitted for induction and the birth we had 3 different midwives and 5 nurses. If not for the written birth plan we would have had to restate our preferences over and over again (when there are more important things to focus on). Things were seamless because of that piece of paper. If there was something that concerned the new nurse or midwife they discussed it with me and got my input. I think it is important for a woman to be an active part of the process, no matter what her decisions.
I hate that people sometimes toss around "birth plan" like dirty words. Everyone wants a healthy baby, there are just disagreements as to how we get there.
Mon, 2009-05-11 21:11
Wonderfully put!! Thank you!
Wed, 2009-05-13 06:36
I think birth plans are great, but I always suggest to people that they talk to their doctor and get the things that they want in writing as doctor's orders. The doctor's orders and the nurses are what will get you the birth you want.
Hospitals usually have some sort of standard orders. To deviate from that, the nurses have to have orders from the doctor. For example, the hospital may have orders that say,"continuous monitoring". If you want to walk around a lot, the continuous monitoring will make this difficult. To get around this, you get your doctor to write an order that you will be "monitored for 20 minutes every hour" or something. This allows the nurses to take you off the monitor and let you walk for 40 minutes every hour.
The combination of making friends with the nurses (snacks and candy are good for this) and bringing orders from your doctor will really help you out. In addition, this means that you have had a really good conversation with your doctor about what you want. Because doctors forget. If you say, "I have a birth plan" and bring it to the doc, they may glance at it and put it in a file. Then, when it is time to put the baby on your chest, they have forgotten and they hand the baby to the nurse. If you have had the conversation and had the doctor write orders, they will remember.
Tue, 2009-05-12 06:49