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May 11, 2009

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There are so many possible choices when giving birth: C-section or vaginal birth?  Pain medication or no?  Circumcision or not?  Then there's little decisions, such as whether you want to listen to music during labor or if you want to take pictures of the delivery.  But do you need a written-out plan to have your wishes carried out?  Nancy O'Dell of Access Hollywood and author of Full of Life: Mom-to-Mom Tips I Wish Someone Had Told Me When I Was Pregnant  joins our panelists in a discussion about birth plans, love 'em or leave 'em.

 

Did you have a birth plan?  Did you stick to it, or did it get tossed aside during your labor?  Was it long and involved, or was it merely an oral plan?  Or did you not have one?  Join the Momversation by commenting.

 

Read about the birth plan experience of Jenny Motley of Crash Test Mommy in her guest blog: My Birth Plan: How I Took (Birth) Control.

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Yep, I definitely had a birth plan, and it was this: get the baby out. As painlessly as possible.

Did it work? Yes it did - twice, as a matter of fact! And I "plan" on doing the same thing come September, when my third son is due.

Honestly, it's nice to have a vague idea of what you want, but even more important to realize the need to be flexible. I think that having a set-in-stone PLAN just puts that much more unnecessary stress on you - during a time when more stress is the last thing you need!

Thu, 2009-07-16 13:48

 

I thought a lot about whether to write a birth plan when I was pregnant or to just go with it since it was my first pregnancy and although I educated myself on what to expect, Id never been through such pain and I didnt know how high my pain threshold was. In the end, I decided to write a birth plan and it was the best decision. I ended up with doctors who read and understood that I didnt want an episiotomy, that I wanted to move around during labor etc and basically the plan was there to reinforce what I wanted if I couldnt say so myself during labor. Of course, I knew labor was unpredictable and so I left plenty of room for discretion in emergency situations but my plan helped me have a natural birth. At 6cm dilated nurses were asking me if I wanted an epidural and continued to ask so instead of just getting nasty as I was a VERY grouchy woman in labor, Id simply point them to my birth plan which specified that I would like the most natural labor possible.

I think theyre a good aid but theyre definitely not set in stone.

Sat, 2009-07-04 07:42

 

Really enjoyed this conversation! Thanks fellow moms. Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks a written birth plan is not vital!

Sat, 2009-05-16 10:26

 

I had a birth plan for my first delivery, but not for my second. I like to check things off lists, so it worked great/gave me a sense of calm. By the second time around, I felt confident enough to just do it "on the fly".

Of course, neither pregnancy went according to plan. (I don't know that anyone's does!)

Fri, 2009-05-15 09:31

 

I found out about Momversation after Nancy O'Dell wrote on her twitter account about it. I follow her. Great website! And what a great topic! I think I'm gonna get the book Full of Life just to read about it because I, too, was so confused about whether I needed a birth plan or not. I agree there are so many things on those birth plan forms which aren't necessary. I spent way too much time filling them out for the birth of my twins and then nothing went as planned. Everything changed and I certainly wasn't thinking about music! I just don't see the need for them. I think a good conversation with your doctor(and making sure he puts down what you talk about in your charts) is the best birth plan you can have.

Thu, 2009-05-14 11:46

 

My birth plan, just like my birthing classes, functioned as a tool to help me thoughtfully envision my labor and birthing process. A birth plan also serves as a fantastic guide for the woman’s labor support, so they can better allow the laboring woman to keep her focus inward and focused on managing contractions and rest, and ultimately, birthing her baby.

I don’t agree that a birth plan should be viewed as ‘obsessive’ or ‘type-a’. And not all ‘birth plans’ consist of a five page computer print-out. It can be as short or long, as detailed or vague as the woman sees fit.

My amazing birthing class instructor, Natashia Fuksman (http://www.withwomannyc.com/live/), shared with us this outline for writing a ‘Birth Vision’
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“Creating a Birth Vision is about taking time to distinguish what your own hopes and desires, as well as fears and unknowns are in terms of your upcoming labor and birth journey. When writing your Birth Vision, you may want to think about it as a letter to yourself and those you have asked to be with you during this special time. Writing a birth vision can be a clarifying process for yourself. Sharing it with your birthing companions can be very helpful for them, as they work on
supporting you in the best way possible way during this journey.
Here are some prompting questions/statements you can work with as you write your Birth Vision:”

What are my hopes and wishes for my upcoming labor and birth?

What are my fears or concerns regarding my upcoming labor and birth?

When I envision laboring, I envision….

In the past when I have felt vulnerable or in need of support, receiving it in the form of…..felt just right. and/or:

In the past when I have felt vulnerable or in need of support, I wished to receive it in the form of…..

Some alternatives to doing what I listed above that might work well for me are….

I realize what I am in control of during labor is…

I realize what I am not in control of during labor is…

Mostly, I just want to make sure I…

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Like Heather mentioned in the clip, a birth plan is a thought provoking tool. It is a beautiful way for a woman to begin to introduce herself to this amazing rite of passage…

Wed, 2009-05-13 21:39

 

i brought food to our nurses the first time. We forgot the second time. Now I don't know if it matters, but they did like the treats. I really think the importance of the doctor is overblown. The anesthesiologist and nurses were more pivotal to my comfort and making me feel supported and adjusting the meds I was getting if I yaked or anything like that.

Wed, 2009-05-13 15:07

 

I became very interested in this episode when I saw Nancy O'Dell attached. So glad to see she shares her mom ideas and so glad to see she is a part of Momversation. I must admit I didn't understand the whole hoopla over birth plans when I was pregnant! I, like Nancy, only had a simple verbal birth plan and everything went fine. My philosophy is that you should trust your doctor to make the important decisions and if you don't trust him or her enough, then you need to get another doctor!

Wed, 2009-05-13 09:31

 

i chose the best midwife around, scheduled a home birth, met with said midwife once a week (and sometimes twice a week) throughout my third trimester, and then my birth plan was in her head. and it went better than i could have planned or imagined it.

Tue, 2009-05-12 21:16

 

I had birth plans with both my pregnancies.

The first one went to hell for a couple of reasons. 1) I was in labor for 36 hours. 2) I had not yet developed the loud, avocation for myself that I have had necessary to grow as my medical situation has gotten more complicated over the years. 3) There was meconium in my fluid. 4) I found out that while I labored forEVER, once it got down to pushing? That turned out to be my THANG.

Here's what happened:

Nurse: Okay, let's have one more push, and we'll let the doctors get ready. (There were doctors everywhere, including the one I DIDN'T want from the practice I was seeing, but also residents, interns and neonatologists because of the poop in his fluid.)

Me: *thinks to self* I've had ENOUGH pushing. I want this DONE. *pushes son's head OUT*

Doctors and Nurses: O__O GLOVES GLOVES GET ME SOME GLOVES!!

Me: Should I reach down and hold his head?

Resident: *delivers son with one, gloved hand*

Unfortunately, without anyone knowing there was anything wrong he died four days later due heart failure from Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome.

By the time my second pregnancy and birth rolled around, I had things much more in hand. I refused to let anyone but MY doctor deliver, circumvented the nurses when they said I had to let whomever was on call from that practice deliver me. I smiled, was put in a room to wait, asked my doula for the phone and called across the street to my ob/gyn's office. As I had lost my child and no one had known there was anything wrong with him, they were well acquainted with me and my freaking out for nine months. The receptionist knew me, got one of MY nurses who told me my doctor was in surgery but that she would make sure someone got him between surgeries, and she did.

When I was put into a room, a doctor from the ER was called up to break my water when I was only dilated 1-2 cm's.

Nurse: Dr. So and so is here to break your water! *cheerfully*

Me: No he isn't.

Nurse: . . . what?

Me: I said no. He is not breaking my water. *to the doctor* You may take your crochet hook and go back to the ER.

Doctor: *looks uncomfortable*

Nurse: But...

Me: Do I need to repeat myself? I said NO.

Doctor and Nurse leave.

MY Doctor comes in to my room in scrubs, hands on hips: What do you think you're doing? (this is a few hours later)

Me: You said not to go into labor on the 19th!! It's not the 19th!! Oh, by the way, some yahoo tried to break my water about four centimeters ago. I sent him away.

My Doctor: If you had let him break your water, I would have had smack you.

Me: I want food.

Doctor to Nurse: Let her have lunch, she's gonna be here awhile.

The end result was, my birth plan went pretty much according to how I wanted it. I had an awesome doctor, and nothing went horribly wrong. Her cord was wrapped around her neck twice, but I had a long cord, and the doctor slipped it out from around her neck and she was fine. Pooped all over me instead of IN me, and I was very very lucky.

I went in when I wanted, had my doula, her sixteen year old daughter took pics, I didn't let my water be broken by a moron with a crochet hook, got my epidural when I wanted it, and pushed her out after 26 hours of labor in less than five minutes.

Birth plans are awesome, but you have to acknowledge that you may have to improvise given any situation that pops up. Knowing where to stand firm, and where to say, "Okay, that might not be a bad idea..." is key.

I was doula for my friend's birth 3 years ago, and my then five year old was present for the birth. Let's just say, her birth plan went out the window, the midwife on call that night was only useful to watch my child, and one of the ob nurses WAS a midwife, and did EVERYTHING possible to help stick to that birth plan and get the baby out. Despite her birth not going to plan (and Willow was born with a cleft soft palate which is a whole nother story) she ended up having a very positive birth experience, because they actually LISTENED to her, and those of us who were there supporting and helping her.

So having a doctor and nurses who respect you and treat you like an adult who knows how to make her own decisions is also key.

In the end? Don't be bullied and know when to bend.

Tue, 2009-05-12 19:14

 

The idea you can “plan" birth is ridiculous. I am a labor and delivery nurse and I can tell you birth is unpredictable- period (.)The nurses I work with are fond of saying "The more pages the birth plan has the more complications the birth will encounter" It's a set up for disappointment.
I myself had an attempted homebirth, ended up transferring and having an epidural after posterior labor for 4 days. I had my second at home in a birthing tub. It's great to be clear on what you'd prefer to go on in your laboring environment (music, low lighting, letting the cord pulsate for a minute before cutting, etc...) but what cracks me up are the outdated 10 page birth plans that list things like-"I prefer to not be shaved" - ladies, we won't shave you unless you have a c-section, and then isn't that the least of your worries at that point? It sucks to be helpless and out of control of your body. I was very frustrated that it took my body 80 hours to get to 8 centimeters. Let me say that again. Eighty hours of back labor to reach 8 centimeters. I hated having to go to the hospital at that point, certain I would end up with a c section. My midwife reminded me we had two centimeters and pushing to go, and that I was bound to hit the wall soon. She had been monitoring the baby carefully, heart tones were steady. Fortunately once we arrived at the hospital the OB was open to let me keep laboring and after some drugs and rest I woke up complete and was able to have the vaginal delivery I had hoped for. I really wanted a home birth. I really wanted a “natural” birth. I really wanted a healthy baby. At critical points it's necessary to surrender to whatever means it takes to deliver a healthy baby. Plans go out the window.

Tue, 2009-05-12 12:52

 

I am a meticulous planner. I plan everything. But when it came to childbirth, I knew that nothing would go as planned, so I didn't bother doing a birth plan. We played it by ear, and luckily everything worked out.

Tue, 2009-05-12 11:44

 

Hmmm..lets see...my birth plan was...

Get the baby out! I will push and push and if need be...we just get the baby out.

No really it wasn't that simple. I mean I knew if I could avoid a c-section I wanted to do so. I knew I wanted just my husband and midwife but that I also wanted pain medication so that would require a nurse and I was fine with that. I think I really REALLY lucked out because of my midwife's experience she really led me in a way that was really great and as peaceful as pushing a human being out of your personal parts can be. I do think it's good to plan for yourself what you want and have some information. Having that HUGE loooong list like you showed Nancy....that seems too stressful for me. I did actually fill out a small one that my midwife gave me (after I too said, what's this about a birth plan??) and it was a one page deal with just the medical basics and a few comfort items and really she said, if you want to bring some slippers and music...do so. And that was it.

But in my head....all I focused on was...get him out, get him out...focus Kristi...get the baby out!!!

And so I did!

Tue, 2009-05-12 10:52

 

I think having a birth plan is a great idea if you feel like it is going to make your preferences better heard and make you an active participant in your birth. I never had a birth plan, but I did have some basic preferences, and I discussed those with my OB. She was very willing to hear me out and follow them as closely as was possible. That said, my first child was delivered via cesarean after 18 hours. Without going into specifics, my doctor discussed every step of what was happening along the way. I felt very involved in what was going on, even though it wasn't my "ideal" birth. It was necessary and I am thankful that we came to the decisions that needed to be made together. Good communication is essential with any care provider and any type of birth you may have. So if a birth plan helps you in this, go for it! I have had two more cesareans after this, and was still able to have a verbal birth plan with these. It made my experiences much more enjoyable and I was able to feel as in control as I possibly could for having a surgical birth. Really good experiences.

The only "problem" I have with birth plans is when they are a gajillion pages long and they are made with the assumption that your care providers do not and will not have your best interest in mind. And that you can through sheer power of the mind and written word completely control your birth. I think since the cesarean rate has inched up, there is almost an undertone of hysteria about medical proffesionals and that they are all out to "trick" moms into a c-section and high intervention tactics. Are there c-sections that are unnecessary? Absolutely. Is the rate too high? I would say yes. However, some interventions and cesareans are very necessary. And at least some doctors do have your best interest in mind. I feel that *some* women's birth plans play into the hysteria. And their goal is to have little to no intervention, that ends in a vaginal birth. These are great goals. The problem is when anything that deviates from this = big fat fail. And then there is regret and upset, and the big evil medical establishment and so on and so forth. There is some extreme rhetoric on both sides. I guess the most important thing is to get a care provider you trust, have a general idea how you want things to go and do your best. That way if things go as planned, great. If they don't, you can have peace of mind knowing you and your care provider did what was best. That way every little detail doesn't have to be wrapped up in an overly detailed birth plan. Because as previous posters have said, birth is unpredictable and we all have to roll with punches to some extent or another.

Tue, 2009-05-12 10:30

 

LMAO Seriously? Birthplan? Whatever happened to just going in and saying "get this out of me now!!" I could say so much, but I think I'm just gonna blog about it. Save space and stuff...

Tue, 2009-05-12 09:50

 

I think birth plans are great, but I always suggest to people that they talk to their doctor and get the things that they want in writing as doctor's orders. The doctor's orders and the nurses are what will get you the birth you want.

Hospitals usually have some sort of standard orders. To deviate from that, the nurses have to have orders from the doctor. For example, the hospital may have orders that say,"continuous monitoring". If you want to walk around a lot, the continuous monitoring will make this difficult. To get around this, you get your doctor to write an order that you will be "monitored for 20 minutes every hour" or something. This allows the nurses to take you off the monitor and let you walk for 40 minutes every hour.

The combination of making friends with the nurses (snacks and candy are good for this) and bringing orders from your doctor will really help you out. In addition, this means that you have had a really good conversation with your doctor about what you want. Because doctors forget. If you say, "I have a birth plan" and bring it to the doc, they may glance at it and put it in a file. Then, when it is time to put the baby on your chest, they have forgotten and they hand the baby to the nurse. If you have had the conversation and had the doctor write orders, they will remember.

Tue, 2009-05-12 06:49

 

I had a birth plan and I believe it is the reason I had such a great childbirth experience. It was only one page and stuck to the things that were most important to me. I discussed it with my midwives beforehand and they helped me understand where I might run into problems with hospital policies. It really helped me to go in knowing what things I might have to give up.

I did my research and I knew the risks for both sides. I knew that every intervention upped my risk for a c-section and I knew that I didn't want to end up with major surgery. My main goal was not to refuse everything but to require them to ask me before they did things to me. That seems perfectly fair to me. I get that childbirth can require intervention but it's not a dangerous process by nature.

Discussing your wishes with your doctor/midwife is great but they may not be the one that attends your birth. I think the written birth plan is key for anyone, no matter what kind of birth they want. In the 24 hours between being admitted for induction and the birth we had 3 different midwives and 5 nurses. If not for the written birth plan we would have had to restate our preferences over and over again (when there are more important things to focus on). Things were seamless because of that piece of paper. If there was something that concerned the new nurse or midwife they discussed it with me and got my input. I think it is important for a woman to be an active part of the process, no matter what her decisions.

I hate that people sometimes toss around "birth plan" like dirty words. Everyone wants a healthy baby, there are just disagreements as to how we get there.

Mon, 2009-05-11 21:11

 

Wonderfully put!! Thank you!

Wed, 2009-05-13 06:36

 

Man plans, god laughs. And I aint religious.

I didn't plan to have The Kid in the UK where it's a battle between the midwives and the docs. The midwives will do just about anything to avoid any intervention of any kind: drugs, tools, cuts, docs...near the end of delivery, the midwives kept shouting at me, "the Drs are standing outside, don't let them come in here. PUSH."

Midwife-led care meant I never had an internal exam or many of the "normal" US things, but it did mean they came to my house to check on me. Which went about like this, "You look well. See you next week." Very, very hands off.

Delivery in the midwife-led unit went like this: stay home, stay home, go home, stay home, oops you need to push, come in I guess. If you want. Knew I'd never get an epi even when I asked in time.

Never wanted my MIL there (but glad she was in the end), didn't plan to cut my bangs without a mirror in the kitchen during labor (not so glad about that). But also didn't plan to recover in a double bed with purple-flowered sheets in a delicate, floral-iron-headboarded bed like at grandma's house circa 1952, where my husband also slept with me the first night in the hospital. That was nice. Didn't plan to have midwives come to my house as often as I wanted for as long as I wanted after I had The Kid. Sunday, 8am, after desperate 6am phone call because I was so unwell, for example. And had we stayed in the UK, would have had 4 years of someone to come to the house to check on us if we needed.

All free. Zero cost. Not one penny. Now that's a plan I can get behind.

Mon, 2009-05-11 19:26

 

I think if you have a five-page birth plan, you need to reexamine your priorities in life. They're doctors, they're trained professionals there to help you, not part of some evil government conspiracy paid off by the drug companies. If the baby comes out healthy and you live, isn't that what matters?

Mon, 2009-05-11 17:43

 

A healthy baby IS what matters. True. However, don't you want more for your child? If a woman can experience birthing her child in a healthy and happy environment, the baby has an even better beginning! A baby born to a mama that feels empowered, that feels like she was in control of her moment - that perhaps she even enjoyed the birth... that healthy baby has an even more glorious start.

I had my daughter in a hospital. I love my doctor. Even so, she was/is as a SURGEON. OB/GYNs are trained to think of the worst case scenario. I knew I was a healthy woman with a normal pregnancy. I knew I didn't need all of the medicalized interventions. I had my short birth plan to guide the staff.

My husband and I decided to birth in a hospital - "just in case." (His words, not mine.) But I knew we had to be prepared to stick by our well thought out and 'planned' birth. And we did. Time and time again, medical interventions - like Pitocin - start a chain reaction of other interventions. Some births spiral to an unnecessary C-section. This is a countrywide issue.

Doctors are human beings. They do the best they can. Women need to be AWARE of pregnancy and birth... AWARE of their bodies and aware of what their part of the birthing process is all about. It is the idea that doctors are the trained professionals and the birthing mothers are simply pawns in the game, that leads to unnecessary C-sections, traumatic birth stories, extremely high rates of PPD in America, and occasionally a mother that is so detatched from her child that the relationship is hindered.

But, yes, you are correct... a healthy baby is all that matters.....

Wed, 2009-05-13 06:35

 

Waste of time! Not having a "birth plan" is not the same as going into the delivery room with no clue. Obviously you should research all the options and have a clear idea of things that are important to you (natural/epidural, breathing/coping techniques, positions, etc.) But even a planner (like me) should understand that there is NOTHING more unpredictable almost than birth. Want to set yourself up for disappointment? Plan the birth (or your wedding) to a T and then fully expect that it will work out that way.

I know not every doctor is like this, but my doctor wasn't really open to the idea of developing a birth plan. He was certainly open to my priorities, but he didn't want to map it out. I went in with a very open mind, but had things I wanted. Like Maggie, I wanted a natural birth but if it was too much, I was open to drugs. (I had both children drug free.) My 5 year old's birth was by and large pretty standard. My 2 year old's birth was, except that my labor stalled after an entire night and morning of labor to the point where the doctor turned off my pitocin, told me to have lunch and gave me the impression that a c-section could be imminent.

No plan goes out the window more quickly than a birth plan.

Mon, 2009-05-11 16:30

 

I discussed my desires with my doctor prior to my delivery. Things like wanting to avoid a c-section if possible, who I wanted in the room with me and how I felt about having an epidural. I didn't feel like it was necessary to write anything down.

Like most deliveries, mine was nothing like I had planned. I passed a massive kidney stone (the size of the end of my pinkie finger) two days prior to my son's birth. It did so much damage that I was put on a Morphine pump after 4 shots of Demerol were deemed useless. I stayed on the morphine pump for 24 hours. When they tried to wean me off the Morphine, I was still in so much pain that my doctor had me switched to a surgical grade epidural. After another 24 hours, my doctor decided that I had had enough and that it was time to have the baby. She put me on Pitocin (I was only dilated to 1/2 cm) and broke my water. My son was born 5 hours later. I never felt a single labor pain.

Would I have liked things to go differently? Yes. I could have definitely done without the kidney stone. The pain was unbelievable. Another thing I would have changed was the insane amount of narcotics I had before my son's birth. As a rule, I try to avoid taking medication if it's at all possible. In the moment, I was thrilled with the Morphine pump.

If I am ever blessed with another child, I will feel like it's my first delivery all over again. I don't think that I will ever write out a massive birth plan. I know enough to know that the best laid plans don't always turn out the way we want.

Mon, 2009-05-11 16:23

 

I have been happy to be a passive voyeur on this site, but this conversation moves me to comment. I'm actually surprised that most of the speakers in today's video seemed to find birth plans pretty ridiculous. For me, it was critical.

If you are a considering a drug-free or low-intervention birth, you need a birth plan. That birth plan needs to be written out, reviewed with your doctor, and a signed copy brought with you to the hospital. That is because many of the things you may want/need to labor successfully will run contrary to hospital policy or preferred procedure. The signed birth plan puts you, the delivery staff, and your doctor on the same page.

Specifying that you want the lights dim may sound silly and contrite, until you realize that the difference between a calm dark room and a brightly lit one, are the difference between you being able to concentrate and focus on your body's work or not. Pregnant women are sensitive to taste, smells, and everything else. The laboring woman is the same. Different things work for different women. And different things do not.

Also, constructing a birth plan forces you to actually think about what you want before you're doing the hard work of labor. It makes you have what can be an uncomfortable conversation (asking for what you want), before you're half naked and vulnerable. And yes, that includes simple things like "I want to wear my own clothes instead of a hospital gown" and "I'd like be able to eat and drink while laboring." Most women take their ability to these things for granted, until they are in the throes of labor and being told "No" repeatedly.

That said, yes, of course, the birth plan is a set of guidelines, not a set of commandments. Although I experienced unexpected complications following delivery, I am quite happy that my labor and delivery went almost exactly to plan (two exceptions: my doctor manually broke my water; and the cord had to be cut immediately, because it was wrapped around the baby's neck). If it were not for my drafting the birth plan and discussing it with my doctor, I'm not sure I would have wound up having the birthing experience I wanted. Instead, I sat on a birthing ball wearing my own clothes, drinking gatorade, and listening to music from own iPod, while moaning through each contraction in the dark.

Mon, 2009-05-11 13:24

 

I think knowing the hospital's policies and standards greatly inform your need for a birth plan. Our hospital is very progressive and "What do YOU want" about things, so in general I wasn't too worried about being forced into something I wasn't interested in. If our hospital weren't so progressive I might have been much more proactive about voicing my desires for minimal interventions.

I also think that while you may not need to write out a specific birth plan, it's good to know what the different options are that are available and different things that may happen so that you can think through how and when you might need them. Had it not been for reading about birth plans and attending our hospital's tour I might never have thought to ask if I could be on a telemetry monitor and labor in the tub. And dear god, the tub was the only thing that got me through transition.

As it was, our hospital actually has a white board in each room in which the encourage you to write what "Excellent care means to you" so that the staff can work to achieve that. Whether it's: GIVE ME THE DAMN DRUGS or Leave me alone and let me do my own thing or Holy Crap breastfeeding is hard, PLEASE HELP.

Thus, our birth plan was: "We're aiming for as few interventions as possible and no drugs unless requested. Mom and Dad deal with stress through humor and sarcasm." That last little bit was so that they didn't take us seriously when we started making snide comments.

And without a birth plan I was able to have an all-natural drug-free birth and the only thing I'd change about the experience was to request a different overnight nurse than that Nurse Ratchett that insisted on being a Chatty Cathy at 4:30 in the freaking morning.

Mon, 2009-05-11 13:00

 

I definitely think that making a plan is important, but as most of the women have said you need to be ready to change plans if necessary. My Father works at an Respiratory Therapist, so he is present at births to attend to mom and babies respiratory needs. He's expressed his distaste for birth plans in the past because many parents who have come in with plans over the years don't realize that this isn't a to-do list this is a changing and evolving process. He's seen Drs get in arguments with yuppie fathers with plan in hand, and the Dr tells them, your baby will die, your plan no longer applies. I think ultimately it's more important that you and your dr/midwife are on the same page, and that you're as informed as possible about the process.
PS everyone should watch the Business of Being Born it's a great movie.

Mon, 2009-05-11 12:49

 

I had a pretty detailed birth plan. It didn't include my music selections, but my doctor and I discussed things like when I would want medication or who I would want with me during which stages of labor. I was so excited because it gave me this sense of control over my birth. My son, apparently, had other plans.

My doctor came in after I'd been in labor for ten hours and decided to break my water. We'd talked about the potential for this and I was already five centimeters so it seemed like a fine idea. Well, she didn't tell me that the real reason they were breaking my water wasn't to speed up my labor, it was to insert and internal fetal monitor since my baby's heart rate was sporadically dropping from 150 to 70. After the first monitor was removed and another was put in because it "wasn't reading right", my doctor looks at me and tells me we're going to deliver the baby now. Twelve minutes later, my son was delivered via cesarean.

When it comes to birth plans, the plan is to get that baby out safely. I still wish I could have delivered naturally, but in those twelve minutes, my only concern was him. Definitely the scariest experience of my life.

Downfall of the emergency c-section: my hospital doesn't allow VBAC. I will have to schedule another c-section next time around, or find another hospital. Hopefully, I'll have another two years to worry about that.

I will say that the c-section rate is scary. The hospital we delivered in has a 40% rate of cesarean delivery. 40%! I had three friends who felt completely robbed of their birthing experience. As far as I'm concerned, unless it's medically necessary and the baby is compromised, there is no reason to not allow a woman to deliver her baby. It should be criminal.

Mon, 2009-05-11 11:49

 

Yeah, 40% is out of control. In 1998, when I had mine, it was considered scandalous at 25%.

I agree that it's best to think these things through and make sure your husband or whoever is there with you knows your preferences so that they can advocate for you when your social skills wane. Personally, I don't think any of us would have been able to find the music, or the focal bunny, or the Pachelbel in D in all the bustle.

I had few requests: please let me try to tough it out, and I will let you know at 5 centimeters whether I need the epi. After that was in place, it went from tense, angry standoff to amateur hour in about ten minutes. I asked the anesthesiologist if many babies were named after him. I was prepared to fall in love with him on the spot just for the immediate relief.

Also, no sugar water in the nursery, please. If the baby is hungry, let me feed him. And no pacifiers if you can help it - I want to set up the routine and save the binkies for later when we're all familiar with one another.

We were surprised on arrival with our first that I'd been leaking amniotic fluid for days and had to be rushed into an emergency c-section the minute I arrived (unbelievable, mortifying, Keystone Kops routine trying to get sample from my undies to confirm same). So, birth plan—whoosh—out the window.

If you want to VBAC, go somewhere where they support it! My second of three was a VBAC, and it was awesome. Granted, his head was smaller than his siblings' heads, but I am not kidding when I say I pushed three or four times and held him like fifteen minutes later.

Episiotomies? Only when necessary. I was happy that my doctor watched carefully and just nicked one in when it looked about to tear. No biggie.

I wanted to VBAC again with my third, but she went 41 weeks and we had to evict her. The risk of rupture with pitocin after a previous c-section was unacceptably high, so we opted for a section. I'd say the recovery is about equal. Different, but equal.

I'd say hope for the best but don't freak out when it goes completely awry. You will come in pregnant and leave with a baby, no matter how things go in the interim. Keep that in mind and forget the bed jackets, your own pillows, etc. They will only get bloody. Leave anything you like at home, and go with the hospital issue! And don't forget, you can ask for warm blankets whenever you need them. Don't wait for an invitation!

Wed, 2009-05-13 08:13

 

OMG I've done such a 180 on c sections. Use to think they were barbaric... but now I think labor is. I really wasted time, energy and money trying to avoid one. As long as the kid is healthy who cares. Frankly recovering from one the second time was much easier than the first. And as my mom said if you can avoid the pain of labor, do it ( she had two natural births). We really need a third way... zipper?

Wed, 2009-05-13 15:02

 

Ok, I've had 3 labors. I didn't have any written birth plans, but I still felt I had to fight for my wishes to be followed.

With the first, I was really young and didn't research a lot of things about labor. I knew I didn't want pain relief, but I knew nothing about pitocin, which I happily allowed them to hook me right up with since I was a whole week late and all. All they said was that it would start my labor. They didn't tell me it would take me from 0 to 60 and that my body might not be ready. I labored in "transition" pain for 20 hours and dialated from 2 to 3. I had a very incompetent dr, but my nurses were great and gently talked me into an epidural. My daughter was born 8 hours later.

With my second, I was 10 days overdue and they could tell he was a really big baby, so even though I didn't want to experience pitocin again, I consented to being induced. They started with Cirvadil, but that did nothing, so I cried as they were setting up the pitocin. Again, I would have liked a med free birth, but I learned from my first labor that if I was getting pit, then I was getting an epi. My son was 11lbs, 1 oz, and I really appreciated the dr I had with him. She was in my opinion as non-invasive as possible.

With my 3rd, I was determined, DETERMINED to go into labor on my own. She was 6 days late, but I actually started contracting on my own this time. I walked and walked for 9 hours before heading to the hospital. After I was there 6 hours they wanted to give me pitocin to "speed things up".
I was really irked and told them I wanted to try walking around. I really just wanted to stay in bed and labor, but I felt I had to do something to convince them that I was trying to get this baby out. Thanks to an emergency c-section of twins on my floor, I was left alone for a few more hours and progressed enough that they "let" me keep going on my own. Next they kept losing the heartbeat on the belly strap thing, so they wanted to do a c-section. I was transitioning as they were attempting the spinal tap, and I pushed my daughter out on my side on the c-section table. My third labor was med free, and "natural" but I feel I had to fight for it every step of the way.

If I ever have a 4th, I'll probably stay home for as long as possible, because the pushiness of the medical personell scares me.

Mon, 2009-05-11 11:37

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