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Some women still get disapproving looks when they state that they didn't take their husband's last name.  "Oh," some people sneer, "Are you one of those feminists?  Did you do it for your career?"  Ugh.  It seems that in nearly 2010 (OMG, 2010!), not taking a spouse's name would be no big deal, just as taking your husband's name is no biggie.  (Of course, we also thought women would earn equal pay by now... but that's a different story).   So, did you go old school and take your hubby's name?  Or did you kick it new stylee by keeping your maiden name?  Rebecca Woolf of Girl's Gone Child wants to know, "Did you take your husband's last name? Why or why not?"
 
Did you change your name when you got married?  Did you get schmack for your decision?  And what do you think of people who either keep their names or change them?  Join the Momversation by commenting below.
 
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Follow-up question: If you didn't change your name, whose name did the kids get?

Sun, 2009-10-11 21:13

 

Didn't change my last name, kids have my last name. Shock horror.

Mon, 2009-10-12 21:20

 
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I really wanted to change my name. I was kind of mad at my mother for giving me my dad's last name when I was born, and then my parents split up when I was 2 years old and I lived with my mother, so right from the start it felt like my name didn't fit. Then she got married and I non-legally assumed my step father's last name, which was confusing because at school I was being called by one name and on anything official it had to be my actual last name. I always figured the sooner I can change my name, the better.
Now I just wish I wasn't stuck with something as difficult for people to spell correctly as vandenbosch.

Sun, 2009-10-11 22:48

 

I'm all for letting a kid decide later on what they want their name to be. why not?

Thu, 2009-10-15 12:29

 

I never considered changing my last name. Not even for a nanosecond.
I offered my husband my name. He declined.
I've always thought of my name - my last name in particular - as part of my identity. I was Dana X for 29 years. I couldn't suddenly become Dana Y.
My last name tells the story of my family. My crazy, loyal, loving family. Abandoning it would feel like abandoning me. Abandoning them. I would feel adrift. Like Rebecca in the video... "Who am I?"
The only real discussion about names came when we started having children. I thought the great compromise would be to use my last name as the children's middle name. We'd give it to any and all children we had and they would take my husband's last name.
We did that for our first. Then our twins. But it always felt strange to me. It unnerved me at the doctor's office to write their name on the sign-in sheet. His name. Not mine.
[It should be noted: he has a complicated relationship with his family who often can be difficult and unkind. So, the name evokes hard feelings, for sure.]
I grew so unsettled with our decision that I actually asked if we could change it. And, after much discussion, we settled on a hyphenated last name that marries both families. We had the names legally changed.
I NEVER EVER thought I'd choose a hyphen for my children. I once saw poet Gwendolyn Brooks speak and she rejected the term "African-American" in favor of "Black." "I am not a hyphen," she said by way of explanation. That always stuck with me.
And yet. And yet...
Funny how real life changes many of the ideas you had when you were younger.

Mon, 2009-10-12 04:06

 

My daughter is six years old and my fiance and I have been together for over seven years. She is his daughter and she has his last name. For all of these years everyone has assumed that even though we had different last names we were very much a family unit and thought that we were already married. It hasn't been a big deal either way for people. Now that our wedding day is only 2 weeks away I am certain I will take his name. I love my birth name but I love being a part of my own little family more. Especially since I know how much it means to my daughter to "match" her.

Mon, 2009-10-12 04:25

 

Did I take on my husband's name when we married? No way. Why on Earth would I change my identity after 25 years on this planet? I don't use his name at all personally or professionally. Now, that I'm 41 I look back at my young self with pride for making such a ballsy decision.

Our 3-year-old daughter also has both of our last names. My husband and I agreed it was the right thing to do for our family.

Feminism is all about doing what's right for you. And we all need to remember that what's right for yourself isn't always right for other people. So, if someone is bitchin' that you changed your name or you didn't... that's their problem!

Tracy

Mon, 2009-10-12 05:16

 

"Feminism is all about doing what's right for you. And we all need to remember that what's right for yourself isn't always right for other people. So, if someone is bitchin' that you changed your name or you didn't... that's their problem!"

Hear hear!

Overall I think the panelists gave a really well-rounded set of opinions on this. Rebecca's voicemail montage was hilarious, hehehe. And as they all basically said: you just have to do what's right for you.

I'm not married yet, but having dated the same guy for 4 years, of course the subject of marriage & family has come up. As others have mentioned, for me my name is part of my identity; Kristan Hoffman is who I am. That said, I've ALWAYS had a TON of nicknames, so I'm used to "multiple personalities," you might say. So my plan as of now is to keep my own name officially, but go by my boyfriend-eventually-husband's last name in our social circles or whatever (that sounds so hoity-toity, lol), and to give our kids his last name for simplicity's sake. I used to think it was kind of sad that my family name was going to end with me, but realistically, what difference does it make? It's just a name, and there are plenty of other Hoffmans in this world.

Edited to add: If either of us had very strange or difficult names, things might be different -- we'd probably elect the simpler one for both us and our kids. Alternately, if both our names were short and simple (like Foy and Watts, for example) we would probably consider hyphenating.

Mon, 2009-10-12 05:59

 

My maiden name is a super long, hard to pronounce Swedish surname. So when I met my first husband who has a super long, hard to pronounce German surname, it was a no-brainer. Hyphenating was not an option because it was just ridiculously long so I became Kristin German surname.

When I went through my divorce I had the option of changing my name back to my maiden name, but I didn't because I wanted to have the same last name as my daughter and it was a lot of paperwork etc. It was just easier to keep it.

Then I got remarried to a man with a simple, short German surname that is actually a shortened version of my first husband's super long, hard to pronounce German surname--Steiner.

That too, was a no-brainer...ahhh love. I am now Kristin Steiner and it feels quite natural. It is a tad confusing with my daughter, not because our names are different, because they are so similar, but different.

I still use my first married name for certain clients in my profession, as it's just easier and my husband is quite well known in our industry, so we like to keep it separate when we can. And my daughter's friends call me Mrs. super long, hard to pronounce German surname and I don't bother to correct them. They are too young to understand the complexity of the situation and it's close enough.

@BeingSuper

Mon, 2009-10-12 05:55

 

Growing up, I definitely always thought I would take my husbands last name. I thought - simple, easy, no real thought - I'm going to be Mrs. WhomeverImarry - the end. Not so much. I ended up keeping my last name and my daughter has my last name - my son has my husbands last name. We do get some weird looks about this from time to time but most people are just like "Well as long as the boy has his fathers last name". (Insert eye roll here)
Honestly, I *almost* pulled for our son to have my last name, too - but I thought - the boy is generally the one these days that keeps his last name and passes it on etc so I can see not letting my husbands surname end with him.
I know this probably doesn't make any sense - one thing that really did it for me, was that I asked him "Would you change your name to Donaldson (my maiden name)?" "Hell no" was his response lol So, that kind of dried the cement on my decision there.

Mon, 2009-10-12 06:14

 

Yes, I took my husband's last name, but it was a last-minute decision after I decided that I didn't want our children having different last names than either of us.

I hear all you ladies who say, "Why would I change who I am?" It was a difficult decision that I didn't take lightly. But I ended up doing what was right for me and my (eventual) kids.

Side note: I despise when I get mail addressed to "Mrs. My husband's first and last name"--THAT is something that is so old-fashioned that it offends me! I may have taken his name, but I'm not his property!

Mon, 2009-10-12 06:28

 

OK yay I'm glad it's not just me.
I loathe that antiquated tradition of "Mrs. My husband's first and last name". All the older members of our families send cards and stuff addressed like that and it makes me nuts. Thankfully companies and organizations don't do that anymore (at least not where I live?) and most have also moved to the generic Ms. which I think is a reasonable solution.
I myself, took my husband's last name. Mostly because it was shorter and simpler than mine but also cause I loved him and (like you and many others) didn't want our kids to have different names than me. I did spend a few weeks thinking about it, as stated it's not an easy decision. Now that we have two kids I am definitely cool with the choice.

Sun, 2009-10-18 10:19

 

I'm a feminist professionally and personally, and no I DON'T think feminism is just about having the choice to do whatever you want. Feminism is also a historical and social awareness; a consciousness of the history of women in society and of the ways in which we're gendered. That produces choices, and political efforts to gain access to those choices. Just remindin' ya--people had to work for your right to not be your husband or your father's property; to legally hold property in your own name; to not have your status in society determined by whether or not you're married.

I figure, as long as you can say with a straight face that you know that the tradition of taking your husband's name came out of the legal norm of being his property, then go ahead and change it. Just as long as everyone who does it has actually put some thought into it. That's all I'm asking for.

Personally, I think too much of women's identities are tied up in marriage--that's why we have an insane wedding industry. That's why I wouldn't change my name. As for kids' names, I think it's arbitrary, and I'd probably go with my husband's name for all of them because I'd be more comfortable with that (didn't say that a consciousness means you have always to go against what's comfortable--we can't escape gender). Also personally, I'll be frank--I get annoyed when women change their names, because then I have to imagine them as two people. Katie Smith who I went to kindergarten with; Katie Jones who I run into now on facebook. Annoying.

Mon, 2009-10-12 07:38

 

for my entire life I swore that i was not going to take my husband's name. and then i met him. and i remember thinking - that very day that i met him - "wow, he has a really cool last name, i would take that last name." 3 years later i took it.

it sure was weird the first time i introduced myself to someone while trying to use my new last name. i boffed it, caught myself, corrected myself, realized i needed to figure out exactly what my new name was gonna be (and said so) then it got the other lady talking about her last name and the various changes she went through.

i also really don't like giving children hyphenated names and it's all around easier to just be of one family name.

i had a few bumps and starts in the beginning, but now i sometimes catch myself wondering why my brother isn't using the same last name as me. OUCH. i guess it's safe to say i've totally assimilated as part of my husband's clan. his family is saner than mine, so that's ok.

Mon, 2009-10-12 07:51

 

I took my husband's last name.

Prior to getting married, we had a daughter, and she had Steve's last name. It was a natural choice because we knew that one day we would be married, and changing a child's name is a nightmare.

Way before I knew Steve, I knew I would change my last name. My maiden name was always misspelled or mispronounced, and my Dad and I (until recently) didn't have a great relationship, so I had no real ties to it.

I will say that actually changing your name is a pain in the rear! We got married in May, and I am still stuck between names. My social security card has been changed, and maybe one or two bills. Other than that I've not had the time to go change my license, insurance and so on. It's just so stressful!

Mon, 2009-10-12 08:10

 

I changed my name. I added my husband's last name but kept mine as a middle name. I also gave my daughter the same middle name. I didn't hyphenate because the name would have been way, way long and I just don't like the way it looked. I have always considered it to be two last names but in daily life people usually just shorten it to be my first name and the single last name. Why? I wanted us all to have the same last name. That is the short answer. I didn't want my kid to have just his last name or just my last name.

In my life, I have felt like a bit of an outcast because I took his name. Most women I know don't do that. They keep their name. The kid usually either gets the husband's name or a hyphenated version of their names. I try to use my full name for professional reasons and usually have to get everyone to add my middle name. It's a pain. Sometimes I wish I had hyphenated.

I have one very big pet peeve. My husband's family and some of his family friends send us cards and things written out to Mr. and Mrs. My Husband's Name. That drives me crazy. I think I officially hate anyone who does that. I don't care if it's traditional. To me, it's about as traditional as genital cutting or forced child marriage. Hate it. Did I mention that I hated it?

Mon, 2009-10-12 08:16

 

I really struggled with this for a while - I loved my name, Julie Sutton. Being in Musical Theater in NYC - and then having a great career in magazine publishing...I wanted to keep it. I mean - it took me almost 30 years to figure out and be comfortable with this Julie Sutton person...
BUT - my husband's face when I mentioned keeping my name, did not match his words. Tenderly, he said, "Sure, honey. Do whatever you want." I love him so and to make him even for a moment think that I was rejecting a part of him that he was so proud of (and so eager to share with me)...well, it just got me.
So I hyphenated. And, sure...it's a pain sometimes. But, I also like the fact that I didn't lose my name - I just connected myself to him. Win/Win.

Mon, 2009-10-12 08:42

 

For starters I just want to say I wholeheartedly agree with Dana: women's rights are about the freedom to make whatever choices we want in any situation. Being a feminist isn't just about making non-traditional decisions all the time, it's about doing what you want and being who you want.

I didn't want to change my name. There's a huge identity thing with my maiden name, and I wanted to keep that name forever. But, we lived at that time in a really conservative community and my husband and I agreed that we wanted to have the same last name. It could be any name in the world, just so long as it was the same and we would be known as that family. Like, the Joneses or the Martins or whatever. We tried to think of a third name we would both change to, and we tried to have fun with it and we had some things picked out. But, my husband was adopted by his father, and in the end we didn't want to hurt his feelings by my husband changing his name, so I took my husband's name.

It was a hard adjustment at first, but I got used to it. And now I can hardly remember when I had a different name. It's weird to me now when people refer to my maiden name. I'm still who I was before, I just have a different label.

Mon, 2009-10-12 08:50

 

I changed my name. I always knew I would, and that has never bothered me. My maiden name is so commonplace anyway....Johnson....that I never considered it part of 'who I was,' as there are a million other Johnson's out there. In fact, there are LOTS of Katie Johnsons! I'm sure you all know one!

A name is a name....that's all. It doesn't make me who I am, really. I've never identified with it in that way. Probably because I'm called by my nickname, Katie, and have from day 1, although that's not my given name. Plus there are a whole slew of other 'names' I've been called, some good and some bad, so I don't see my identity as wrapped up in my last name, either.

BUT, it doesn't make me any LESS of a feminist. ;)

Mon, 2009-10-12 08:56

 

I spent ten years working to build up my professional name and reputation, and yet when I got married, I DID take my husband's last name. A part of that was the synchronicity of his last name starting with a "T". I've been a Kate or a Katie all my life, and back in high school, a close friend who was also a Katie and I used to sign notes to each other with "kt", so having those as my actual initials felt right. (Plus, I used "kt" as part of my internet identity for years before I met my husband.)

In fact, I named my business both for that high school nickname and for my new initials, though I started it just before we got married.

For the first year of my business, I spent a lot of time introducing myself as Kate Maidenname Marriedname, to remind people that they knew me, but have been slowly phasing it out, introducing myself now just as Kate Marriedname.

I like being part of a Mr. & Mrs. I like having the same name as my stepdaughter, and not having to worry what our future children's last names will be. The only thing I don't love it that I have the same last name as my husband's ex-wife. But I can't do anything about that.

Mon, 2009-10-12 09:25

 

I did not change my name when I got married. It's not because I'm a feminist, more because I'm a narcissist. I love my name. It's part of me and I had no desire to change it. I'm a doctor and it was important for me to be Dr. My-last-name and not Dr. My-husbands-last-name. I don't use his name at all - not professionally or personally. At first he was mad that I didn't take his name. He said taking his last name would be a sign of unity, of love, of family. So I told him if that was the case, he could take my name....of course he didn't but he got the point and never complained about me keeping my last name again.

Mon, 2009-10-12 10:04

 

LOL, I'm all for Narci's! good for you. And like how you made him see your point.

Thu, 2009-10-15 12:32

 

My partner and I have been together for four years, but we're not married, for a variety of reasons. One of the biggest ones is that my mom is gay, and has been with her partner for years and years but they still aren't allowed to marry. It's a choice that Chad and I discussed, and he supports the statement that I'm choosing to make. Even if we were, though, I wouldn't take his last name. My father passed away when I was young, and being a Chong, being his daughter, has always been a huge part of my identity and a way I continue to honor him.

As for our daughter, I was living in Hawaii and my partner was in Oregon when she was born. He came to visit, but left two days later and we weren't together as a family for four months. Logistically, taking her to doctor's appointments, registering everything and being her sole caretaker for months was just easier when we had the same last name, so she has mine. And her dad's relationship with his father and that last name is strained, so it's just warm and fuzzy all around here this way.

Mon, 2009-10-12 10:36

 

Mon, 2009-10-12 10:47

 

I've been waiting for this topic to come up. I do not plan on taking my fiance's name, and hoo boy, has it caused some major drama. Both with my grandmother ("But you HAVE to take his name!" uh, no, I don't), and with his parents - his mom was absolutely crushed. But she's also incredibly old-fashioned, and to her, not taking her son's name isn't a choice I'm allowed to make, rather, it's just straight-up a slap in the face and an indication that I a) don't love him, b) don't respect him, and c) am not committed to him (and by extension, will probably divorce him). So to be perfectly honest, I didn't feel too bad about disappointing her. I know it's just a function of seriously old-fashioned and outdated thinking. Of course, my fiance has indicated in no uncertain terms that he prefer I KEEP my maiden name, which is good, because I feel the same way! When we have kids - well, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but I'm probably willing to let them have their father's name. We'll see.

The thing that really shocked me though was the reaction of someone my own age. It was a representative for a tailor, I think he was around my age (mid-to-late twenties), maybe even younger. Last time I saw him he said, "wow, I guess next time I see you you won't be Ms. Y anymore!" I corrected him, saying, actually I will. He didn't get the hint. "Oh, so you'll be Ms. Y-X? You're still taking your husband's name, right?" I told him no, I'll still be "just Ms. Y." He looked really confused and said incredulously, "Really?!" I expect that to be the reaction of my grandparents, but a kid in his twenties? What rock did he crawl out from under? Even if it's his preference that his wife assume his name, how could he have lived this long without realizing that some people don't take their husbands' names, period?

I think it's every woman's choice to do what she wants with her name. The only thing that really makes me roll my eyes are the women who can't stop gushing "I can't WAIT to be Mrs. Robert Smith!!" Makes me want to vomit.

Mon, 2009-10-12 11:08

 

that would make me gag as well. I remember when I was little My mom was listed in directories, charity, school as Mrs John Carl Brogdon. Not even her first name got in there. gross.

Thu, 2009-10-15 12:34

 

I too have been waiting for this topic to come up (thanks Rebecca!).

When I got married, I didn't change my last name. I love my name just the way it is and really felt like changing my name would mean screwing with my sense of self-worth and identity. Plus no one would expect my husband to change his name, so why should I be expected to? I also have zero interest in a tradition that harkens back to when women were considered property, like land or cattle. How is that romantic?

My family knows I didn't change my name, and yet I still get birthday cards addressed to Mrs Husband's First and Last Name. Ugh. It irks me and makes me feel like my decision is not being respected, but I just have to chalk it up to their old-school way of thinking.

We have a baby on the way, and she will have both my last name and my husband's.

Mon, 2009-10-12 11:43

 

I took my husband's last name because it was super generic and easy to pronounce. I regret it a little bit because I live in the same area that my family has been in since we came over from the old country so I feel like I've lost a little bit of a connection to the community by having to introduce myself as Mrs. Generic Last Name but at the same time I was so tired of spelling my last name constantly and it still showing up on bills completely wrong, now people spell my last name for me.

Mon, 2009-10-12 11:47

 

Absolutely agree that whatever works for you is what's best for you, and I wouldn't judge either way. But I was raised by a bleeding heart liberal family so i think i shocked my mom and aunts by taking my husband's name. I figured why bow to expectations -- I wanted to express myself and my love for my husband, even if it means being a little subversive! ;)

Plus, I never really understood the feminist argument from a logical standpoint. Isn't your maiden name yet another man's name that you didn't choose for yourself?

Mon, 2009-10-12 11:52

 

I really enjoyed this one.
I thought long and hard about this decision... no, actually, I decided right away and then worried that I was doing something wrong: distancing myself from my future children (if I am so lucky to have them), keeping myself separate from my husband, holding on to a name that in reality doesn't define who I am, because that isn't how it works.
BUT and BECAUSE
I am my name. I left the US when I was 12, and have lived in Germany since. People pronounce my first name correctly because I kept my last.... I would be Deeahnahh Hofmann.... I don't turn when people call that name. Sure I would get used to it. BUT I need to stay connected to where I come from, it is important to me. So no Deeahnahh for me.

I would have no problem at all giving my name up to not be connected to my father, that is not the point. I want to be able to tell my children where we come from as a family, from different places, and that it makes us special. And that they are part of that. They will (this is all theory, so who knows) have their father's name, but they will come out of my body, so there.

But my name really is ME. And I like it.

Mon, 2009-10-12 12:41

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