January 20, 2009
You're blissfully driving along when it happens. Another driver cuts you off; you slam on the breaks, and out come the curses... of course, the kids are in the back seat, listening to the torrent of swear words. Whoops. But is it really that big of a deal? Mindy Roberts of The Mommy Blog wants to know, "Do you curse in front of your kids? And do your kids swear?"
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37 Comments
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Thu, 2010-03-04 09:49
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Wed, 2010-03-03 17:15
It is so sad that people responsible for children have no respect for themselves; cursing in front of their children...it's bad enough to curse in front of other people. Everyone wants respect but cursing surely is not a sign of respect. Some of the comments show that there is shame in cursing because the individual catches themself, especially in front of children....it appears the individuals who curse have no respect for themselves...especially females...apparently their command of Enclish or whatever language spoken, is not very good...if the individuals had a good command of their language, other words that aren't curse words can be spoken' words that won't offend other people who do not curse...maybe cursers aren't aware of how offensive they sound when they curse. I am embarassed for the individual who is cursing because it sounds so childish and not very intelligent. Everyone wants their children to grow up right and be a productive citizen...stop and think that employers won't hire someone who curses as a normal part of their daily launguage, regardless of how many degrees that person has...final comment is "What Would Jesus Do?" Would you be proud for Him to hear your cursing language?
Wed, 2010-02-24 08:22
Funny thing, I didn't even know the word "piss" was a swear until I moved to Utah and went to LDS business college. You can imagine how I found out. Still makes me giggle.
Mon, 2009-02-09 09:36
I agree with whats-her-name (sorry, I'm new). I never really understood what makes one word "bad" and another with same meaning "good." For instance the word ass is bad where the word butt or bottom or butocks... all ok??? Ass is a much prettier word, why did it get the forbidden label? I'd much rather talk about my ass than my bottom or my "anus," eeeeeew, talk about an icky word right there. Doesn't exactly conjure up sweet images for me. But I do love my ass, my gulteous buttamus, my bootie.
The same thing goes for the word shit. How does poop compair? Or fecal matter.... uh. But shit gets the bad rap. Silly to me.
I don't like the "f" bomb. Just personal preference. I hate the way it's used sometimes. Sex is a much prettier word in this case. "Sexual", that's pretty. The word "intercourse" just makes me wince. You wanna have what? That just doesn't sound very fun to me. Maybe you shouldn't do it, I mean... did your doctor say it was ok?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way about words. I have 3 kids all under 8. I don't encourage them to "swear" cuz they gotta get along with their teachers and stuff. Also, I try not to do it in front of them so much cuz I can't imagine that makes it easier. In all, its just a weird society-based thing to me, and that's what I tell them.
Mon, 2009-02-09 09:31
Absofuckinglutely. Sometimes there are no effective phrases that curse words punch in, like "what the fuck?" or "holy shit!" (which incidentally my son said at two--with correct intent--when he encountered a huge pile of ants).
"Gosh darn it to heck" simply doesn't cover it. I've tried various grandma phrases (ie: "son of batch of biscuits"), but I swear it just makes me hungry.
We do try to watch it most of the time, but we slip up. My spouse is also in the military and although that's no excuse for having a sailor mouth....wait, yes it is. He defends this nation willingly. He can say whatever the fuck he wants (as long as it's not about the government or the president).
Fri, 2009-02-06 15:45
I do, sometimes like a sailor. And if I catch either my daughter or stepson using even fake swear words (like freaking for example, or sucks) I chastise them for it and sometimes give them consequences.
I tell them that the seven deadly words are Mommy Words, and when they are a Mommy (or Daddy) they can use them as much as they like. Yeah, it's really lazy of me, but it works.
Thu, 2009-01-29 12:25
Ok, I'll admit it. I've got a major pottymouth.
Sometimes swearing is the only way to really get your point across whether you're telling a story, telling another driver what you really think, or even squealing about a stubbed toe.
I'll say things without thinking and immediately will slap my hand over my mouth and pray that Kaleb didn't hear me. I try to censor myself but Kaleb is literally *always* with me and sometimes I just can't. Lol. When he does hear me, I'll usually get a sharp glare or a "What did you say, mommy?", so I'm happy he's at least taken the "Bad words are for grown-ups, not little boys" lesson to heart. *phew* Who knows what will happen once he's in school and the kids are using swear words on a daily basis.
Tue, 2009-01-27 12:00
I never curse in front of my kids. Ever. That's why I curse constantly on my blog.
Mon, 2009-01-26 11:12
I guess I'm a bit of a goody-goody. You won't find it on my blog and you won't hear me do it in front of my baby. I'm one of those people who uses "gosh" like it's going out of business. Well, maybe I'll throw out a piss here or a damn there when I'm with friends or extremely upset, but I didn't grow up in a home that cursed so I guess I'm just not programmed for it. I try to keep it clean :)
Sat, 2009-01-24 21:22
I agree with the savvy moms who know there is no shame in a potty mouth since it goes in the grown up activity category, like driving. The reactions are key, and the parental domination of never saying shit makes it juicy to do so. I may swear in front of Aston or Indiana Jones will and we just check in with him that he knows it is a grown up word, aka not to be used in school where an adult can hear him!
Once when he was 4ish, during a freestyle prayer riff, he says: And God loves me even if I say the A word or the B word or the S word, even though I don't even know what the B word is, but Justin at school said it is pretty bad. ROTFLMAO!!!! The next day I asked what the S word was and he said, stupid.
He has never been intrigued by the whole thing. He has said: That sucks, and when I asked, What did you say? He says, Just trying it out. But if he asks me what they mean, I try to give him an idea of the nature of the insult without going into detail. It's like a parenting challenge for me. Just doing research for my next coaching client! Great topic ladies...
Dawn
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Sat, 2009-01-24 15:30
I was a waitress for fifteen years. A little insight, we have potty mouths. So, it took a lot of time and effort for me to curb my bad habits. Luckily, by the time my oldest started repeating everything, I had myself under control. Not working in a restaurant helped a lot. I don't swear in front of my kids except for the occasional slip up. I'm sure when they get older they will do their fair share of cursing but for right now I thinks it's best to keep them as innocent as possible. They grow up so much faster these days. Why help it along?
One problem I do have though is being aware of what I watch on TV. One evening, when my oldest was three I fed them dinner in the living room so I could watch the early viewing of The Sopranos. She turned to me and said, "Did he just say f**ing?"
"Yes, but we don't use that word"
"What f**ing?"
"Yes"
"Why don't we say f**ing?
"It's not nice and mommy and daddy don't use it so you shouldn't"
She did the same thing after she heard her Grandpa say dammit.
Those little stinkers will sneak it in as much as possible if they find out they're not supposed to say it.
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Thu, 2009-01-22 19:06
I don't have a potty mouth but I have to admit to swearing once in a while in front of the offsprings.. swearing is a weird and funny thing sometimes, I came to live in montreal around 5 years ago and here saying anything related to the catholic church is a swear word... so hostie (host) swear word... holy communion.. swear word... calice (chalice/calix) also a swear word... to me that is just too darn funny!!
Thu, 2009-01-22 14:59
Pat - the Host thing completely threw me in Spain. I stayed with a family in Catalunya, and the son was always saying "hostia!" or "hostia sagrada!" and his mother would try to get me to make him stop by pretending I was offended. It actually cracked me up, just like my using "Jesus!" make them laugh. "Why are you saying that?" Even worse, when I won an argument I'd say, "See?" and they'd just look at me funny. "Si? Si, que?" I could not break the habit. Just could not.
I can swear in Chinese, ("Go fuck your dog." "I don't have a dog."), Serbian (I'm afraid to try to spell it - I don't know what it means, but my Serbian boyfriend in HS had me saying it for years. That is, until a Serbian I worked for once asked me to tell him all the phrases I knew, and when I said this one, he turned pale and said, "I have never heard that word from a woman's mouth."), French, Catalan ("I shit on the Host" - hey, THEIR words, and I was shocked), and Spanish. I can swear in languages I can't even begin to speak. Probably just as well.
Thu, 2009-01-22 20:15
Call me old-fashioned or up-tight or any other hyphened word, but my husband and I only curse around each other. And we're trying to cut that out.
I, too will admit that nothing is funnier than throwing a expletive out there occasionally. And sometimes there is no other word that fully describes what you want to say, BUT...
I don't like to do it in front of others, and I certainly do not want my children to do it.
Maybe it's because I'm a pastor's wife. Okay, well that has a lot to do with it.
Thu, 2009-01-22 13:05
My husband and I both cuss in front of our children, but we do try to censor what we say if possible. Most of the time we don't think about it before we say it. There are worst things in the world than dropping the "F" bomb. To read more about me and my experience with getting my 5 y/o to stop saying fuck... check out my post http://thexmom.blogspot.com/2009/01/everlasting-alternative-f-bomb.html
Thu, 2009-01-22 12:29
my husband and i cuss in front of our 9 month old constantly... assuming that he doesn't get it. but maybe we should hold back and attempt to tame our potty mouths before jackson can understand what we're saying. i'm not sure if it would even matter though because i learned the other night, when giving jackson a bath, that he thoroughly enjoys having soap in his mouth. so it's not like i'll be able to use that as punishment for cussing... fuck that.
Thu, 2009-01-22 11:33
Mindy, I'm so sad that our long strings of expletives were cut from the final product. Those took work, people! And afterward I had to wash my own mouth out with soap.
I'm beginning to realize that I might be a bit Victorian, myself. I totally correct Henry when he says "What" instead of "excuse me," and I get all testy when he calls Scott "him" instead of "Daddy" or "Honorable Father" or whatever. Jesus Christ, when did I get so fucking proper?
Thu, 2009-01-22 11:18
"And afterward I had to wash my own mouth out with soap..." anybody else read that and picture the scene from "A Christmas Story" where the mom washes Ralphie's mouth out with Lifebuoy soap?
Careful, Alice, I hear it causes blindness ;-)
Fri, 2009-01-23 19:20
Yes, I can't help it. Sometimes when I've tried something like walking across my son's Lego-covered floor in bare feet, at night... it just comes out. Swearing is like punctuation marks for my pain.
I remember getting into the car with my father and son (who was barely 3). As we started driving my little angel spoke up from the back "Grampa, is THAT a putz TOO?"
My poor dad.
And Mindy... are you wearing a pocket watch locket in the video? I like it!
Wed, 2009-01-21 20:40
Yes - that was my great-grandmother's watch! We can't figure out who it belonged to before that - there is some old etching in the casing we can't read. I feel like I'm officially middle aged - wearing my great-grandmother's watch and my grandmother's diamond ring.
Wed, 2009-01-21 22:06
I spilled a tray loaded with food, fries, and soda at Burger King this weekend. All over the floor. The sodas *exploded*.
I shouted, "SH*T!" at the top of my lungs - pure instinct - looked down and there was a five year old girl and her mother right next to me. I slapped my hand to my mouth and stammered out an apology - first to the kid and then to the mom. By time the manager had replaced my order I was purple with embarrassment.
Wed, 2009-01-21 18:11
First, I've gotta say, the bleeps make this episode funnier for some reason. At least to me.
For me, the whole concept of "bad words" has never made much sense. I grew up in a fairly strict household cursing-wise, but just never understood this notion that certain words were designated and set apart, such that uttering them was awful -- when you could say things that mean the same thing, or say things much more hurtful, or even use the forbidden words in a non-hurtful way.
I did briefly conduct an experiment when I was 8 or so with my parents, that I mentally dubbed "What the fuck is wrong with fuck?" Basically the concept was over-exposure and example, and they would surely see my impeccable logic.
It did not go over well. That was the end of my cussing career for the next decade.
My husband had it much worse than I did. He was raised to never ever EVER cuss, or say words that were "replacement words" for cuss words (cottonpickin' was just as bad as motherfuckin'; shoot was the same as shit, etc.), and he got his mouth washed out with actual soap for any transgressions. So even now, if I cuss in front of my son -- and by "cuss" I mean "dammit" -- he'll glare at me.
But I see nothing wrong with cussing, at least nothing separately wrong with it. Hurtful is hurtful, slang is slang, it's all the same to me. But by osmosis and just habit, I hardly ever cuss, naturally. That, coupled with the fact that I really would rather my son spout something other than words that will get nasty-grams sent home from his first-grade teacher, and my language lately amounts to "Golly gosh darn it! Horsefeathers at all this bull-honkey!" (for which my husband's grandmother would probably like to wash my mouth out anyway).
My son did ask me about bitch a few months ago, which I think is one of the few cuss words that I can almost unequivocally tell him it's wrong to use, at least in the noun form that doesn't mean female dog. I just told him it was a word that meant girl dog, but people also use it now to insult people girls, and since that's what everyone thinks when they hear the word we shouldn't say it, even if we're talking about girl dogs. The message was basically if you can avoid hurtfulness in language, do so. He's been exposed to most of the "biggies," but doesn't really think anything of it one way or another. It's just another situation where you can choose to say this or that, choose to be mean or nice.
This is how unexposed my son is to cussing: The other day in the parking lot, someone slammed a car door on her hand and addressed the car, hollering, "Stupid fucking piece of fucking shit! Dammit!"
He looks solemn. "Mom! She said stupid!"
Wed, 2009-01-21 17:57
AZ - The bleeping was one of the preconditions! I said I'd do it if I had full freedom to say whatever I wanted and if they would bleep it out. You know, make it into a drinking game. This video is relatively tame - both Alice and I rehearsed long strings of profanity - independently - and kept cracking up in the middle. I think we each had to do three takes.
Wed, 2009-01-21 18:59
I grew up with both parents swearing like sailors. For my dad the F word was just punctuation.
So naturally my language wasn't exactly the cleanest. My mother would tell me off for swearing in my teens and i had no reason to pay any attention because she'd turn around and swear just as bad 2 minutes later.
Then I married a mormon and had a baby, took me a long time to eradicate the swearing from my vocabulary but I did it. Now when people swear it really hits a lot harder than it ever used to. Where bad language used to bounce off me like rubber balls it now pierces me like arrows. I wonder how children feel about it?
Wed, 2009-01-21 17:35
Just the other day, I considered tweeting fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck for the entire 140 characters of a twitter update. That's how much I like to swear.
I agree with some of the other ladies that swear words can express that something special in a way other words can't.
I did not & really try not to swear in front of my daughter but have found that I seem more willing to say "dammit" in front of her than I used to. Not that I want to but I'm noticing that I do.
She says "sucks" & I consider that a swear word but I can't stop saying it myself so I find it hard to admonish her. Instead I give her a lukewarm look of disapproval & call it a day.
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Wed, 2009-01-21 17:28
Can I just say that I'm Australian. Swearing like a sailor is a way of life over here. Everyone does it. Okay, so almost everyone. My in laws are still firmly planted in the Victorian era where one must say "Excuse me?" instead of "what?" blah blah blah.
So yes, I swear in front of Erin and she has quite an array of "inappropriate" words which she can even use in context. Actually, her third word was "bugger" so we had Dada, pup and bugger. Once she's older we'll teach her about appropriateness and that swearing is something adults are allowed to do but children' aren't.
I've had people tell me that they don't swear in front of their children because they're children aren't allowed. Well children aren't allowed to drive, should we all stop doing that in front of them too?
That said I don't tend to swear in my writing. On occasion I do, and I think that that occasion is becoming more frequent, but up until the past year or so I NEVER swear on blog. No particular reason for it though and I didn't realize I didn't do it until I started reading blogs where the author did.
Wed, 2009-01-21 15:33
Aloha! I use Vimeo and just copy and paste the info on the embed button :) Hope that helps!
Here's my take on this swearing thing...this was a fun one. I have gotten sooooo much better with my swearing since having kids. Now I spell out explicitives, but for some reason that doesn't get my point across quite as well as a good old F*%@!
Here's my video...Again, you HAVE to love the unflattering screenshot. They do this to me on purpose I swear, LOL!
Vimeo.
Thu, 2009-01-22 17:47
I loved this video so much I felt the need to add my own ... http://vimeo.com/2908402?pg=embed&sec=2908402
I love swearing.
Wed, 2009-01-21 14:04
No! No! Daddy didn't say Fuck, he said Puck. No mommy didn't say SHIT, I said Quilt.
My son never buys it! He just looks at us and says, "that's a bad word".
Wed, 2009-01-21 12:43