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January 13, 2009

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Botox and boob jobs and tummy tucks, oh my!  Procurement of plastic surgery is on the rise in the United States; in 2007 alone, 11.7 million people went under the knife in pursuit of the perfect nose, cellulite-free thighs, and a pouty mouth.  But is it all just superficial?  Daphne Brogdon of Cool Mom asks the panelists, "What do you think of plastic surgery?"
 
What's your take on elective cosmetic surgery?  Is it akin to coloring one's hair?  Something to build self-esteem?  Or is it all just a vain attempt to keep up with celeb moms?  Join the Momversation.

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Wed, 2010-03-03 17:37

 

I think we should be asking "Plastic Surgery: Pro or Con...for ourself?"
I don't believe in telling other people what they should and shouldn't do with their own bodies...so I definitely don't believe in chastising or judging others because they have had plastic surgery, whether I think it was a good or bad decision.
Unless it is a loved one (who I can be bossy with) or someone who is actually asking for my opinion...I'll just keep them to myself.

Tue, 2009-09-29 11:11

 

Great comments, Just-Jenn. I couldn't agree more. My husband has been ranting for years that plastic surgery is tantamount to self mutilation. After three kids my response has always been the same "And being pregnant wasn't!" My boobs are too little to have the problems you speak of, but my stomach is so gross. Really. I just want to be put back together in that respect.
I also want a nose job. My three pregnancies didn't effect my nose. I don't agree with whats-her-name (sorry I don't remember who) that it is the way God made me. God created the process, but I don't think he micromanages it like that. My nose is an unfortunate, to me, combination of genetic blue prints. I wouldn't have bought my little nosy mansion if I'd been allowed to see and approve those blue prints ahead of time.
I'm not sayin I wanna look like a superstar, I've just got my own blue prints is all.
Not sure how I feel about boob jobs, they scare me cuz of the whole breast cancer issue. They are comming up with better technology to help catch breast cancer in all us youngins. That may help with those who have implants as well. If that technology proves itself, I'm in. Otherwise, I really don't look so bad.

Mon, 2009-02-09 10:10

 

I disagree with the notion that women who want plastic surgery (out of true want, not need) do it to fit some societal based mold of beauty. I don't give a crap about that mold (I never fit in, never will, don't want to!) But I do care that I cringe when looking at certain parts of my body or when the husband and I are having sexy time and I have to lift my tits out of my armpits so he can have a lick.

Honestly, I really think that the people who are so against it and are relentless in proclaiming they love their post-baby body despite the havoc wreaked, probably didn't sustain a lot of damage. But there are some of us out there who truly didn't fair well. I have stretchmarks from boobs to thighs (not one or two, but hundreds and they're bigguns), including my vajayjay mound. Who gets stretch marks there? My breasts went from 34B's to 40D's with my second and then back down. I lost all solidity and literally have shells of saggy skin for boobs. Oh and I have the raisin belly that no amount of dieting, cardio or sit ups will help. I have to scoop it up and tuck into my pants.

These are not things I grew to love because they were the result of having my children. Fuck that. I want my body back! I don't want my boobs bigger nor do I wish to be a size 4. I just want things put back in their natural places.

My husband thinks I'm beautiful. I want to feel beautiful and I don't. And make no mistake, I love who I am. I don't want to fill some emotional void with a new body. I think I rock on the personality aspect and I think I can pull of being cute. But my body is something of a disaster that nothing short of a few thousands dollars will fix. I know. I've seen the surgeons already.

I was very anti-plastic surgery prior to children. I, too, thought it nothing more than vain attempts to buy into high standards of beauty. But not anymore. I still think it's done for those reasons, obviously, but not all of us who would give both our tits for a new pair want to do so for those reasons.

Fri, 2009-02-06 16:04

 

I say if it going to help give you more self confidence than go for it. As long as you're not skipping a mortgage payment to do it. (I know someone who did that).

I've always had very tiny boobs. I once had a crush on a guy in high school. When my friend asked him what he thought of me, he replied, "she's cute and I'd go out with her but her boobs are too small". I always had a boob job in the back of my mind growing up.

Today, I satisfied with the size and shape of my breasts. But ask me again once I've stopped breastfeeding.

Sun, 2009-01-18 13:16

 

I don't really care whether or not people get plastic surgery. But based on my experience growing up in LA, I don't think it is truly satisfying or happy-making for most people that get it.

Thu, 2009-01-15 17:18

 

I say do whatever makes you happy.

Thu, 2009-01-15 17:06

 

Ha! Totally!

Thu, 2009-01-15 15:28

 

Awesome that they handled it so that you could still nurse. I have a couple friends who had it done a long time ago and that just wasn't something high up on the priority list. It was like, do you want the change? Then formula feed.

I completely agree with you that body dimensions have a huge impact on your well being and self-image. I was a late bloomer, and was mortified to be the tallest kid in my class, with a unibrow no less, and have a flat chest so late. And then, well, I spent the next twenty years trying to minimize it. It looked ok at 125 lbs., but we all know I'll never see that again! Meh, wish I could pinpoint those extra forty or fifty...

Thu, 2009-01-15 22:23

 

Woops on the double post!

Thu, 2009-01-15 13:33

 

That's what I considered. Mine were DD, though no where close to FFs, and I swear they shrank somewhere down the line. Big knockers come with big back problems. Ouch.

Mon, 2009-01-19 11:51

 

I HAVE had a boob job. Two actually. They were breast reductions but really, I see no difference. Sure my back hurt and I had to wear three sports-bras in PE class but the main reason I had the surgery was because I hated the way I looked. HATED. I hated my body and I hated my life because honestly? What you do and do not have physically can be a huge decider in your well-being.

I blogged about this, here: http://www.girlsgonechild.net/2006/08/breast-years-of-my-life.html

Having 36FF boobs at 18 was not a pleasant experience. So for me, I think surgery isn't so terrible. I don't begrudge those who chose to go under the knife. Having reduction surgery changed my life for the better and who am I to decide whether or not Jane Doe having a tummy tuck wouldn't have the same experience with her surgery?

Thu, 2009-01-15 13:32

 

I HAVE had a boob job. Two actually. They were breast reductions but really, I see no difference. Sure my back hurt and I had to wear three sports-bras in PE class but the main reason I had the surgery was because I hated the way I looked. HATED. I hated my body and I hated my life because honestly? What you do and do not have physically can be a huge decider in your well-being.

I blogged about this, here: http://www.girlsgonechild.net/2006/08/breast-years-of-my-life.html

Having 36FF boobs at 18 was not a pleasant experience. So for me, I think surgery isn't so terrible. I don't begrudge those who chose to go under the knife. Having reduction surgery changed my life for the better and who am I to decide whether or not Jane Doe having a tummy tuck wouldn't have the same experience with her surgery?

Thu, 2009-01-15 13:32

 

Sign me up for a boob job in 2011. A free one, if possible.

I'm one of those people who has virtually no boobs. Before having my son, I was less than an A cup. Sad and pathetic. At the height of nursing, I was maybe a B. Right now, we're working on weaning... then getting pregnant with baby #2, then nursing again. After all that is done, I would totally get a boob job.

Why not? I was afraid to get one before having kids because I didn't want my own vanity to get in the way of nursing my son. I know that the risk of not being able to breastfeed is small, but even a small risk was unacceptable for me. Everyone has to make their own choice on what level of risk they are willing to accept.

Oh, and for the record, I wax, color my hair, and would totally get botox and lazer hair removal. If baby #2 wrecks the undercarriage, I might even consider some vaginal rejuvenation. Of course, all of this depends on economic circumstances as well, so maybe none of it will come to fruition. I'm just saying I'm not above getting a little work done. ;-)

Thu, 2009-01-15 12:35

 

I personally don't think I'd get any kind of anything done (except for maybe laser hair removal. Man, it sucks being Italian sometimes.) especially since my boobs are so big they've been "boob in a sock/ upside down P" since I was in my early teens. I think, if anything, I'd have the surgery to reduce and to lift!

Ultimately I think it's a very personal thing and it only reflects badly on a person if they're doing it for the wrong reasons. If you're going to do it, have a solid, good reason to do so and then just do it! You're not going to please everybody and if it makes you feel better about yourself, then go for it. :-)

Thu, 2009-01-15 10:56

 

I don't have a one-size-fits-all opinion on plastic surgery (or any elective surgery, for that matter). Would I get it done? Hell yeah, if I had the money. But I wouldn't do anything to my face. I'm not trying to look plastic or "perfect," I just would LOVE to have a flat stomach. It's genetics, the way I'm built. Even when I weighed 98 lbs I didn't have a flat stomach, so all the diet and exercise in the world isn't going to change that.

And I don't believe that my desire to have a flat stomach buys into any crazy ideal about women or means that I'm not comfortable in my own skin. It's just something I would change about myself if I could. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Of course, by the time I can actually afford it, I probably won't care so much any more. So WILL I have plastic surgery? Probably not.

Thu, 2009-01-15 09:44

 

I was bothered by wrinkles on my face so I went and had Juvederm injections, costly but I got a no interest loan from CareCredit. What a difference it made in my appearance and boosted my self confidence.

I am all for those type injections but as to actual surgery I wouldn't subject myself to elective surgery even tho I would love to have liposuction.

Thu, 2009-01-15 06:39

 

The only person in this house who has had plastic surgery is my son (for birth defects that would have a daily impact). Cosmetic surgery and plastic surgery are not the same thing.

I believe aging women look beautiful and have a dignity and grace that is unique in someone who is comfortable with themselves as they are. I am hoping I can also grow old with grace and to accept the changes in my body as something to wear with pride - and as proof of using my body to the best of my ability.

Wed, 2009-01-14 21:10

 

I've got the double chin and the muffin top (who am I kidding, it's a bakers dozen) , but I'm not about to go through the risks of surgery to get to the "perfect" me...that being said, I have no problem with women who chose to nip this or tuck that. It's your money. Spend it any way you want to.

Linda
http://www.shortpumppreppy.com

Wed, 2009-01-14 18:29

 

Do I believe in plastic surgery? Hmmm. Constructive plastic surgery (masectomy patients, car accident victims, domestic violence injuries)? Of course. Plastic surgery (fake boobies, butts and vjay jays)? Not so much.

It cracks me up when some celeb - who clearly has gone under the knife - makes a best body or most beautiful list. Ah, magazine editors, don't you know she (or he) paid someone to make her look like that??? If you're full of plastic you should be on any kind of beauty list. Period. There are plenty of people out there who are naturally good looking - why don't we celebrate the Kate Winslets of the world instead??? She is gorgeous just the way she is.

But instead our society embraces so called plastic perfection. So much so some people go completely nuts in the operating room and come out looking like a cartoon character. You know the ones - the moms and dads who look nothing like their kids. How on Earth are they going to explain that to the kiddies later on?

Tracy
http://themoxiereport.blogspot.com

Wed, 2009-01-14 12:50

 
Pat

This topic also has been on my mind since I had my first daughter, what about having plastic surgery to erase the scars of motherhood ie serverely damages stomachs due to strech marks and twins for example, or boob sagginess like Dana's Diaphram shows.
I don't think there is anything wrong with that as long as you don't put your children through hunger just for you to afford getting some tucking done . Then again I never had anything done so I don't know about the recovery pain factor.
I agree with Moorem though, if you are going to have surgery it better for yourself and not for the way people are going to see you.

Wed, 2009-01-14 12:34

 

What a great topic! This has been on my mind off and on for years. Before kids I thought I would never, never, never, get plastic surgery, never. After my first two kids it was a comfort issue and a concern for my back that spurred me to get a tummy tuck. I couldn't get up without getting a kink in my side, I couldn't let my kids lean on my stomach because it was painful, no amount of sit ups could make it better. Because my stomach muscles weren't held together in the middle anymore, my back wasn't being supported anymore and I had had back problems before.
After the surgery everything is great and I didn't mind the boost of self confidence I got from not looking pregnant all of the time. I even had a baby afterward (a surprise) and my stomach is still holding up nicely. Even so it's my belief that looking better, in whoever's eyes, is not a good reason to get plastic surgery.
My warnings. Elective surgery is probably not the best idea if it's not a health concern or if your job doesn't depend on your looks. Hollywood makes it so hard for us to look at ourselves normally because they don't hire old, washed-out looking people. That also makes it hard for actors to get jobs. It's a vicious circle. All surgery has a level of danger to it. My recovery was exceedingly painful. Laughing and sneezing were excruciating. I couldn't pick up my one year old for a month. Torture in and of itself. I wouldn't go through it again just for asthetic reasons.
Ultimately, it's a personal choice. But, if your buying into the whole gotta look good scenario and decide to go for it, you're only encouraging the whole Hollywood, magazine, model image. This makes it that much harder for others to just say no.
Kellie
www.momranoutscreaming.com

Wed, 2009-01-14 12:20

 

asianmommy- i had lasik done a little over 4 years ago, when i finished grad school and it was seriously the BEST thing. sooooo very worth it. i had worn either glasses or contacts since the 3rd grade... had HORRIBLE vision. i have seen better than 20/15 since the surgery. it was well worth the shaking and blowing into a paper bag in the waiting room with anxiety.

Wed, 2009-01-14 10:53

 

It's funny--I used to think that I'd never even get my hair dyed. When I was an adolescent, I thought it was kinda vain. Now, I'm pretty sure that at some point, I will do it.

I'm intrigued with the idea of getting Lasik done to avoid having to wear glasses or contacts for the rest of my life, but I'm really too chicken. I'm really not that much of a risk-taker. I'd rather avoid having unnecessary surgery if I can. Things can go wrong. There are risks to surgery and anesthesia. I'm sure I'd do it if it were medically necessary surgery or even reconstructive surgery, but for pure beauty? Hmmm....I'd rather not.

Wed, 2009-01-14 10:01

 

I think getting or not getting plastic surgery is a very personal decision. Coming from the world of competitive bodybuilding has shown me a couple of sides to the body image story. First, any body enhancement taken to the extreme (diet, exercise) can make you look like a freak and is not attractive. On the flip side-when you regularly have body fat under 17% or even occasionally under 8% looking like a 12 year old boy in an headless chest shot is un-cool as a grown woman. I cannot argue that it is costly and there are surely other things that money should be spent on-however almost everyone I know sometimes spends money on things that are unnecessary. I am against extreme plastic surgery, however I think a broken nose, surgery scars or a 12 year old boys chest on a 35 year old woman might be reason if you are personally ok with it.

Sometimes it actually isn't about looking good for others, but feeling good about yourself. Once my daughter (15) said to me, "Why can't you just get old like everyone else!" (she was arguing with me over spending money on a gym membership vs. buying her a *new* car for her 16th birthday) and at that time I told her straight up-"I don't really mind getting older, but I'll fight it with everything I've got." I do work very hard at the gym-because it's good for me and I LOVE the way I look as a result. On the other hand, I am starting to get some grays and I don't bother to color them (yet) I figured God gave 'em to me and I'm not that bothered by them so, whatever.

Each person has to do what is good for them. But ALWAYS do it for yourself not to impress others.

Wed, 2009-01-14 09:59

 

hahahaha, daphne, LOVE the diagram!!!! that just made my day, seriously. my son is almost 9 months and i could only breastfeed him for 5 weeks because of his severe allergies. after ONLY 5 weeks of breastfeeding, my boobs = your diagram. you can't remedy that shit unless you do have plastic surgery. so am i advocating to have it done? eh, if it's your cup of tea... it's not mine (atleast not now, but i'm only 27 and have one child, so we'll see...) i will say though, this momversation topic got me thinking about yesterday's oprah. did anyone see it?? kate winslet was on post-golden globe wins and she was just glorious, as she should be. anyway, oprah was talking to her about her roles in "the reader" and "revolutionary road" and of course got on the topic of her sex scenes. then oprah said, "can i just say... god bless your real breasts!!!" and kate just EXPLODED with excitement and said, "WHY YES!!!" and there was a moment of just glorifying her boobs (post child) that do what normal boobs do-- sagging to the side of your body when you lay flat on your back, drooping when you take your bra off. for a moment, yesterday, when i watched this take place on oprah, i thought to myself, "yes, it is quite something to be celebrated."

Wed, 2009-01-14 09:59

 

I just have to pop in here and speak up for the boobs. How your boobs look after baby is caused by being pregnant, NOT by nursing! All that stretching and swelling, and lord knows what rearranging and construction goes on in there before the baby comes... that is what stretches the skin and causes the "sand in a sock" later on. Breastfeeding doesn't stretch things any more than pregnancy, though it seems so when you've got those stripper boobs that don't move when you jump just when your milk comes in.

Please! Especially if concern about the effect on your figure has anything to do with your decision to breastfeed or formula-feed, check out the literature and decide for yourself. The one thing breastfeeding does do is make your nipples a little more prominent while you're breastfeeding. (You do want to be sure everything's pointing in the same direction when you get dressed!) However, it goes back, as does everything else, as best it can.

I breastfed three children for a combined total of… please don't take me off your blogrolls for this… ninety-five months. I also spent fifty months pregnant (first one ended at 22 weeks). My boobs still look pretty good, considering, and given the amount of time I nursed, you'd think I'd be tucking them into my socks.

Not so. I just tie them in a knot in front.

KIDDING.

Thu, 2009-01-15 09:40

 

Good to know! I don't think mine swelled to circus-size until somewhere around the third trimester and then good grief it was ridiculous. I could wear the cup as a hat and while my husband thought that was cool I knew I'd pay for it when I got older.

Mon, 2009-01-19 11:53

 

I hope that I never get plastic surgery. I already need it! =) I just hope that I never buy into the "I have to be perfect" mentality and allow myself to just be.

Plastic surgery poses risks. Sometimes great risks.

There are legitimate reasons to get plastic surgery and then there are desperate attempts to fit into societies mold.

I wish we could go back to seeing all people as beautiful and not just the sickly skinny and surgically altered, but I'm afraid it's too late.

Wed, 2009-01-14 07:55

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