I did not have any trouble conceiving my daughter but someone dear to me has been trying for ten years to have a family. She has done 4 IVF cycles and all came with negative results. Last summer I became her gestational surrogate and after years of trying, it was a positive result. However the pregnancy was eptopic. We are giving it another try this summer. So I definately do not frown upon fertility treatments. Every woman is intitled to be a mother. What I do frown upon is the poor judgement that Nadya's doctor has. Being a professional, he should have known the chance of having multiples with the amount of embryos he transfere. Three embryos were transferred into me and only one made it through but unfortunately went the wrong way. This summer we are transferring the last 4! Its exciting but full of anxiety. To help us deal we are sharing our story on www.IVFDiaries.com

I love you Karen. I want to be friends with you. Seriously. You are so lovely! And Rebecca, let me tell you what, if a Dr could give you more arms that would work (or even just hang there without killing you), I promise you, you would get your extra arms. I had not really thought about Nadya at all until I watched this Momversation. Now that I have seen it, I want to say I actually think Nadya is great. So many people are deciding not to have kids because they are really selfish - she is making up for that. I'll send my tax money to Nadya and her kids - they will take care of me when I'm old...

Absofuckinlutely we should judge her. My husband works, I am unemployed due to moving country. We'd love a second kid, but, check it, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. OK, we probably could, but it wouldn't be a wise financial move at the moment, and even with being lucky enough to have healthcare, paying for the extra medical costs are unthinkable at the moment. It's one thing to have your situation change (like a divorce, losing a job) leaving you financially high and dry with kids and a mortgage, it's quite another to be at rock bottom and freakishly give birth to a litter. Isn't this the mentality that got us to our current credit crisis? Wanting things we can't afford? Yes, yes, children are not things, save it. It's all fun and games until you lose the hospital near you because the Octomom moves into your neighborhood. Try this article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29147091/ "The Suleman octuplets’ medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby’s hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million. For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture." Or this one: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Parenting/story?id=6853385 I'd rather the assistance go to responsible families/single parents fallen on tough times. Huh, who knew I disliked this topic so much?

My biggest problem with Octomom is the way it makes motherhood look. I really think that we perpetuate this idea that motherhood is something easy. Its not. This woman has all of these caregivers to help her. Where are these people coming from? We see her out giving interviews and going to the hospital, etc. Who is taking care of all those kids while she's out? Where is the money coming from for this? These are important questions. Most of us maybe think a little about how we will need a babysitter to go to a movie before we get pregnant, but we don't think about those kids being our whole lives. Being at an appointment with a phalanx of kids climbing all over you. She inherently has to have caregivers simply because of the fact that you can't fit that many children into one car. But, we never see that. We see her doing what she wants and those kids seem to have an endless supply of people watching them. For single moms without family close, this must be excruciating to see.

I really appreciate this conversation. I am not a mother, but I desperately would like to be one. However, because my kidneys have seen better days, It would not be healthy for me or a baby. This is a really tough topic for me because I'm seriously wondering, Why not adopt? What about all those children in the world who would love to be part of a family, even a family of six kids or even 12 kids. For a child that lives in an abusive home or no home at all, just having someone take care of them and love them is more than their little lives could ever imagine. I agree with the panel... that we should not judge... who are we anyway? But it's hard for someone like me, who cannot have children and really wants to, to see someone squander their God given right to be a mother having more children than they can provide for or give the individual attention a child needs.

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I think the problem with the Octomom is the fact that she is living with her parents, has six other kids, has no job, and is not married. How is she going to raise those kids by herself? What about health care for them? She may get some money from wellfare and her disability, but will it be enough to raise her kids?

I just have one question- what the heck is so wrong with adoption? Why is it such a taboo for many individuals who can not conceive right away or even some who can to adopt? There are so many babies in this world who need good parents. Why not become the parent to those beautiful babies? Just because they aren't blood, doesn't mean they're not yours. To be a wonderful and fulfilled parent is to have love in your heart, not shared blood. Regarding Octomom- she has proven that she can not make responsible decisions. She has a lot more issues than most of us could probably ever understand. If she did not want to be responsible for "killing" healthy embryos then why would she do IVF in the first place? If the statistics are not very high in the embryos surviving when implanted, wouldn't she be taking the risk of "killing" the embryos every time she was implanted? However, if she felt that strongly about the subject, why didn't she try to have her embryos adopted out to others who are not fertile? Many, many people will be responsible for supporting those children. She has put so many people, churches, groups in an unfair position because of her selfishness.

I can't not judge. I went through oral fertility drugs. I had already made the informed decision to NOT go forward with injectables or in vitro. I am small in stature, but rather round. I was all too aware that my body would have issues carrying more than one child. When I found out I had two little ones inside, I was scared. When I went into labor at 24 weeks I was terrified. I was told the odds of them surviving were 50/50. The odds of them surviving and not having lifelong complications from the delivery at that point, higher. Each week from that point increased the odds. When I delivered finally at 28 weeks, they were given stats of 100% survival with odds of health being pretty high. With each fetus in a gestation, the odds of prematurity increase. Transferring more than a few embries when she obviously can be pregnant and give birth was an irresponsible medical decision on the dr's part. It ranks up there with child endangerment in my eyes, both medically and morally. Sorry, but as someone who battled for health and life of 2 children, I can't imagine anyone knowingly or willingly putting themselves or children at risk like that. That isn't to mention the financial burden. I know the cost for my kids was about 500 thousand total. I can't imagine the cost of 8. I had insurance, and thankfully it paid well. I really feel like this woman has actually set fertility rights further back both medically and socially. Having said all that, I do not want anyone to think I lean toward gov't policing of my fertility. I think it should be up to the patient and their dr. However, as someone else said, (sorry I forgot who you are.) just because I love my arms, doesn't mean a responsible dr is going to give me more. I cringe when I think of what those kids are going to face. I hope it all turns out differently than I suspect, but my cynicism prevents me from really believing that it will.