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April 06, 2009
When you hear the word "vaccine," do you immediately think of the word "autism?" If so, you're not alone. The purported link between vaccinations and autism has been big news in recent years. Stars like Jenny McCarthy have claimed in the media that vaccines caused her child's disorder, while celebrities such as Amanda Peet have spoken about the importance of vaccinating children. So, with all the conflicting information, whom do you believe?
According to the CDC, there is no link between autism and vaccines. In fact, it was recently proven that the doctor who first made the connection faked his results. Yet, some mothers whose children showed symptoms of autism shortly after vaccination remain convinced that the vaccine caused the disorder. Heather Armstrong of Dooce asks our panelists, "Are you concerned about vaccinations?
What are your thoughts regarding vaccinations and autism? Did you vaccinate your child? Why or why not? Join the Momversation by taking our vaccination poll and commenting.
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I am all for vaccinating your child. The mothers that don't aren't just putting their kids at risk they are putting everyone at risk. So sit in a PICU sometime and see what these deseases do to a child.As far as the autism caused by vaccinations go. I am very close to 6 kids that I know of off hand with autism and everyone of their parents will tell you that their were signs since birth. As a parent and I know this as well because my son has downs syndrome you don't want to believe that anything is wrong with your child but look a little closer.
Thu, 2010-03-11 07:50
good and i am here new user and i dont know the laws here and iteams what can i talk about any thing but i will be your friend i will pleasure when i know what is get on here
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Wed, 2010-03-03 18:10
I agree with vaccination and am myself vaccinated but I have an 8 month old who has not had a single vaccination because I am not okay with the risks of vaccinating my daughter.
I'd rather wait until she's a bit older and her immune system is stronger before introducing viruses (sometimes live ones) via vaccination. Especially since there are links between certain genetic markers, vaccines and unfavorable side effects like the autism link.
Do I plan to vaccinate? Yes! I feel delayed and selective vaccinations are what is best for us and our views.
Mon, 2010-03-01 21:25
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Sun, 2010-02-28 07:09
This is the first momversation I've viewed and it's really disappointing. This is the same passive-aggressive faux progressive rhetoric that you see everywhere. Why did you ladies waste your breath, you could have just said "I won't openly admit it, but I think moms who don't vaccinate are worse parents than I am".
This momversation was very one sided all sorts of holier-than-thou pseudo open-minded tripe. Dismissing other parents because they don't believe like you. Why didn't you have a non-vaxer involved here?
Dooce, I read your birth story (or at least the first part) and I certainly hope the same realization that hit you with birth hits you with vaccines....maybe they aren't crazy loons who are being so reckless with their children's health. You say so yourself in your birth story ....you were prepared to dismiss all the facts. I have to wonder how seriously I can take any woman in this momverstaion, as they all seem hell bent on dismissing any facts that don't agree with their agenda.
I have three non-vaxed children. Listening to y'all makes me want to run screaming from the doctors. Luckily, I don't base health care choices for my kids on what the cool girls on the internet are saying.
I am considering vaccinating. There are very good reasons to vax. There are very good reasons to NOT vax. The first poster to this thread made an excellent choice...you have to play the odds. Unfortunately it's hard to dig through the condescending comments in this subject and actually figure out just what the odds are.
I may vaccinate my kids. If I do, I certainly would never (and am glad I didn't) shove masses of disease into my two week old (or younger!) infant. My youngest is over a year and if we vaccinate him, we'll do it based on what he NEEDS, what will be safe for our community, and do it at a pace that is reasonable.
Mon, 2009-07-20 11:06
i beleive you are making a mistakeyour children will be suseptableto a lot of things by not being vaccinayed my grandson is autistic was diagnos at less than a yr when a lot of vaccinations had not been given yet so i beleive there is not much chance he got it from vaccinations but my children are all grown things years ago seemed fine it is not just vaccinations you have to protect them from
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Sun, 2010-02-28 07:09
I agree, the momversation was pathetic and even more so because it shows the level of information they are basing their judging opinion.
Thu, 2009-07-23 16:50
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Sun, 2010-02-28 07:09
I started researching 8 years ago and have continued to stay up dated on vaccine information since then.
We have chosen to not vaccinate for a few different reasons. The main one being our immune systems. The immune system has kept us alive for the millennium. Did people die of illness throughout that time, yes. Were there times of large numbers having weak immune systems, yes.
I now live in a time where I can supplement and support my immune system as much or as little as I want. So I spent a lot of time learning how my immune system works and how to support it.
Secondly, when I was doing research, I wasn't reading stories about children developing autism but dieing after vaccination. I had just lost my daughter months earlier to HLHS and knew first hand what that meant and was not going to be the one to allow preservatives and viruses that have not been double blind tested to be injected directly into the blood system when that is the third level of defense in the immune system and then be told I was crazy or that I hurt my child after they are dead. If my child died of a natural virus then I would accept it.
Since then autism has skyrocketed and there is no research being done as to why that is. That is a concern to me. It is obvious to me and most everyone else that vaccination has a part to play but is likely not "the cause". To me it looks like "the straw that is breaking the camel's back". So my question is...what is the state of the "camel" before the injection?
I was introduced to the thousands of hours of research that Dr. Sherry Tenpenny has done and enjoyed her presentation of information from the CDC and other trusted organizations. This was really a great break down of the real risks and benefits of vaccination. I would recommend her book/videos.
This issue is about living with the consequences. I chose and continue to choose to live with any of the consequences that come from my children getting these illnesses that in most cases are not life threatening (pls look up CDC stats!) and I do that with research and instinct to back me up.
Those who choose to vaccinate need to realize that there may be consequences for them also, and as long as they understand what they are, I don't think it's "an issue" - it's a choice.
Tue, 2009-07-14 14:05
I agree with you and everyone else who is not lining up and fearlessly injecting their kids with vaccinations which were made by people you don't know or trust, contain ingredients you didn't research (neither did your doctor), and might be contaminated with anything (during the 50's the polio vaccine was contaminated with a monkey virus that can cause brain tumours).
I have 11 children and did vaccinate for many years. The last 5 have never been vaccinated against anything and neither have any of my 10 grandkids. I am so glad we changed our thinking on this issue and when my children have researched for themselves they are convinced too. None of my unvaccinated children has ever contracted these diseases and if they did it is far healthier to gain immunity the natural way rather than by bypassing natural defences.
Some vaccines contain ingredients such as thimerosal which contains high levels of mercury.
Vaccines have been implicated in many diseases such as cancer, arthritis, MS, autism, etc. and even cause fatal reactions.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/03/03/A-Vaccine-...
This link will take you to a form you can give your doctor before your child's next immunization. See how confident your doctor is about what he or she is injecting into your child and how quick the form gets signed.
Thu, 2009-07-23 14:19
Wow! I would think everyone would do research on such an important issue. Some vaccines use cow puss as the base. Who wants their child to have cow puss in them.
My children are NOT vaccinated because I cannot find a good enough reason too. They have had rubella and chicken pox with no problem. I could never vaccinate until positive about the effects. Until then, I have the choice!
Sat, 2009-07-04 01:05
having rubella as a child can have repercussions later my brother in law had it as a child an had a lot of trouble conceiving a child later in life you are not giving other people a choice by having your childre with these diseases you are exposing others unwillingly
Thu, 2010-03-04 08:58
Not all parents are concerned with just Autism. Some, like my husband and I, are concerned with this...the numbers of microbes, antibiotics, chemicals, heavy metals and animal byproducts. Would you knowingly inject these materials into your children? And if so...why? It's rather amusing to start a topic about over medicating children, but this is perfectly acceptable to give them?
Acel-Immune DTaP - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis adsorbed, formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) gelatin Act HIB
Haemophilus - Influenza B Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* Haemophilus influenza Type B, polyribosylribitol phosphate ammonium sulfate, formalin, and sucrose
Attenuvax - Measles Merck & Co., Inc. 800-672-6372
* measles live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin, chick embryo
Biavax - Rubella Merck & Co., Inc. 800-672-6372
* rubella live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin, human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue
BioThrax - Anthrax Adsorbed BioPort Corporation 517.327.1500
* nonencapsulated strain of Bacillus anthracis aluminum hydroxide, benzethonium chloride, and formaldehyde
DPT - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
* diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis adsorbed, formaldehyde, aluminum phosphate, ammonium sulfate, and thimerosal, washed sheep RBCs
Dryvax - Smallpox (not licensed d/t expiration) Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* live vaccinia virus, with "some microbial contaminants," according to the Working Group on Civilian Biodefense polymyxcin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins Engerix-B
Recombinant Hepatitis B GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
* genetic sequence of the hepatitis B virus that codes for the surface antigen (HbSAg), cloned into GMO yeast, aluminum hydroxide, and thimerosal
Fluvirin Medeva Pharmaceuticals 888.MEDEVA 716.274.5300
* influenza virus, neomycin, polymyxin, beta-propiolactone, chick embryonic fluid
FluShield Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* trivalent influenza virus, types A&B gentamicin sulphate formadehyde, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) chick embryonic fluid
Havrix - Hepatitis A GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
* hepatitis A virus, formalin, aluminum hydroxide, 2-phenoxyethanol, and polysorbate 20 residual MRC5 proteins -human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue
HiB Titer - Haemophilus Influenza B Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* haemophilus influenza B, polyribosylribitol phosphate, yeast, ammonium sulfate, thimerosal, and chemically defined yeast-based medium
Imovax Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* rabies virus adsorbed, neomycin sulfate, phenol, red indicator human albumin, human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue
IPOL Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* 3 types of polio viruses neomycin, streptomycin, and polymyxin B formaldehyde, and 2-phenoxyethenol continuous line of monkey kidney cells
JE-VAX - Japanese Ancephalitis Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* Nakayama-NIH strain of Japanese encephalitis virus, inactivated formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (Tween-80), and thimerosal mouse serum proteins, and gelatin
LYMErix - Lyme GlaxoSmithKline 888-825-5249
* recombinant protein (OspA) from the outer surface of the spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi kanamycin aluminum hydroxide, 2-phenoxyethenol, phosphate buffered saline
MMR - Measles-Mumps-Rubella Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* measles, mumps, rubella live virus, neomycin sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin, chick embryonic fluid, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue
M-R-Vax - Measles-Rubella Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* measles, rubella live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin, chick embryonic fluid, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue
Menomune - Meningococcal Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* freeze-dried polysaccharide antigens from Neisseria meningitidis bacteria, thimerosal, and lactose
Meruvax I - Mumps Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* mumps live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin
NYVAC - (new smallpox batch, not licensed) Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* highly-attenuated vaccinia virus, polymyxcin B, sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins
Orimune - Oral Polio Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* 3 types of polio viruses, attenuated neomycin, streptomycin sorbitol monkey kidney cells and calf serum
Pneumovax - Streptococcus Pneumoniae Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* capsular polysaccharides from polyvalent (23 types), pneumococcal bacteria, phenol,
Prevnar Pneumococcal - 7-Valent Conjugate Vaccine Wyeth Lederle 800.934.5556
* saccharides from capsular Streptococcus pneumoniae antigens (7 serotypes) individually conjugated to diphtheria CRM 197 protein aluminum phosphate, ammonium sulfate, soy protein, yeast
RabAvert - Rabies Chiron Behring GmbH & Company 510.655.8729
* fixed-virus strain, Flury LEP neomycin, chlortetracycline, and amphotericin B, potassium glutamate, and sucrose human albumin, bovine gelatin and serum "from source countries known to be free of bovine spongioform encephalopathy," and chicken protein
Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
*rabies virus adsorbed, beta-propiolactone, aluminum phosphate, thimerosal, and phenol, red rhesus monkey fetal lung cells
Recombivax - Recombinant Hepatitis B Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* genetic sequence of the hepatitis B virus that codes for the surface antigen (HbSAg), cloned into GMO yeast, aluminum hydroxide, and thimerosal
RotaShield - Oral Tetravalent Rotavirus (recalled) Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* 1 rhesus monkey rotavirus, 3 rhesus-human reassortant live viruses neomycin sulfate, amphotericin B potassium monophosphate, potassium diphosphate, sucrose, and monosodium glutamate (MSG) rhesus monkey fetal diploid cells, and bovine fetal serum smallpox (not licensed due to expiration)
40-yr old stuff "found" in Swiftwater, PA freezer Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* live vaccinia virus, with "some microbial contaminants," according to the Working Group on Civilian Biodefense polymyxcin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins
Smallpox (new, not licensed) Acambis, Inc. 617.494.1339 in partnership with Baxter BioScience
* highly-attenuated vaccinia virus, polymyxcin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins
TheraCys BCG (intravesicle -not licensed in US for tuberculosis) Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* live attenuated strain of Mycobacterium bovis monosodium glutamate (MSG), and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80)
Tripedia - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
*Corynebacterium diphtheriae and Clostridium tetani toxoids and acellular Bordetella pertussis adsorbed aluminum potassium sulfate, formaldehyde, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) gelatin, bovine extract
US-sourced Typhim Vi - Typhoid Aventis Pasteur USA SA 800.VACCINE
* cell surface Vi polysaccharide from Salmonella typhi Ty2 strain, aspartame, phenol, and polydimethylsiloxane (silicone)
Varivax - Chickenpox Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* varicella live virus neomycin phosphate, sucrose, and monosodium glutamate (MSG) processed gelatin, fetal bovine serum, guinea pig embryo cells, albumin from human blood, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue
YF-VAX - Yellow Fever Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* 17D strain of yellow fever virus sorbitol chick embryo, and gelatin
Sat, 2009-05-16 14:39
it is not just medicines that you give your family do you look at the food ingrdients that your give yopur child high fructose corn syrup and soda almost everything has some thing that is not good for you
Thu, 2010-03-04 09:01
The 'controversy' seems like a never ending battle. I have two children in the spectrum. So far, there is no known 'explanation' as to why, and if I spend too much time wondering, I might loose great opportunities to enjoy the wonderful, amazing individuals they are.
Genetic testing did not reveal anomalies. Other tests have not given light as to why this happened. There is so little known about the autism spectrum to assert a single cause. The best experts out there are still scratching their heads, because not even two kids in the spectrum seem to match possible causes.
I am not against immunization, but believe the current schedule is too aggressive, especially if you do have, like we do, a family history of autoimmune diseases (the only possible explanation, we've been able to come up with). We have chosen a slower schedule, but are immunizing our kids. For making an informed choice, I recommend Dr. Sears' vaccine book. I think it offers balanced information on the possible risks of vaccinating and not vaccinating.
Rather than pointing solely at vaccines, I am more concerned about what I call cookie cutter health care. I wonder if there is a way to check for a child's vulnerability to certain reactions before they're vaccinated, rather than the wait and see approach that is used now. Ditto for medications.
Wed, 2009-04-22 05:25
For a number of reasons, I have chosen not to vaccinate my daughter right now. I might change my mind at some point and I reserve the right to do so. But I have seen no evidence that vaccines are any safer than the disease itself. My husband is an attorney. This verdict came down recently, and I found it very interesting. The jury awarded a man over 22 million dollars after contracting paralytic polio from his recently vaccinated child. Even though this happened 20 years ago, 'shedding' is still very common among children who have been vaccinated.
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202429597507
and if you think the drug companies are all goodness and light, then be sure to read this article:
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202428184887
It deals with an ongoing case in Nigeria involving Pfizer and a study they conducted on children there.
As parents, all we can do is what we THINK is right for our child. I believe that is probably different for each child. I just want the right to choose.
Sat, 2009-04-18 22:29
in some states you cannot go to a public school unless you have been vaccinated not everyone is able or can home school their children once they start interacting with others anything can happen
Thu, 2010-03-04 09:05
It seems that almost every parent here has decided to vaccinate their children, with a small percentage deciding to delay the vaccination schedule. Personally, when I am blessed with a child, I think we will at least delay the schedule in order to avoid overwhelming their immune system with toxins from the and viruses from the vaccines.
Has anyone here taken a look at the work that Gary Null and others that work with him have done? They seem pretty convinced of the vaccine-autism link. I haven't read through all the material myself, but at this point it seems plausible. I think the basic idea is that there is a risk of developing myriad problems as a result of the vaccinations, and each vaccine carries this risk.
About scientific research, has anyone seen a study proving that vaccines are safe and effective? Did anyone ever actually test that it was safe to combine all these different vaccines together in such a short period of time? Where is the science that proves the current vaccine schedule to be safe?
Here's a link to one of the pages by Gary Null and Doug Henderson:
http://gnhealth.com/vaccinedenial.html
Sat, 2009-04-18 06:33
Autism is not the only concern with vaccines. It actually doesn't even rate very high on my list of reasons for not vaccinating. Like others have said, giving Hep B to infants at birth is unnecessary in most cases. How can we know what substances a newborn may or may not be allergic too? http://iansvoice.org/default.aspx
That is a very difficult site to look at, but it shows what happened to an newborn who had a horrible reaction to Hep B, and died at 47 days old a horrible death.
Sun, 2009-04-12 07:06
We have a ten-year-old son who received the very first vaccination in the schedule, and no others. This was because a friend of ours literally begged us to do some research before we allowed any further vaccinations. As we were both university professors, she said, we of all people should at least know how to do research.
So we did. And we chose not to vaccinate further, and felt incredibly guilty that we had done so the first time without doing ANY research at all. And our reasons were not just about autism; they were about many issues including the science underpinning mass immunisation, and the ethical arguments about the same, as well as the lack of long-term research on the impacts of such massive and close doses on children who are not physically able to process either the diseases or the agents that are contained in the vaccines (not just mercury).
I debated listing all of the sources we used, and explaining all of our reasons, but that would just be one more posting on this board. This board should not be your primary source of information; as an earlier (pro-vaccination) poster said, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
Heather says she doesn't understand parents who don't vaccinate. I say, given there is some level of controversy, and the fact that pharmaceutical companies have a rather blemished record regarding research and product claims, that I don't understand parents who don't research this themselves.
And please, before you tell me how we're harming other people because of herd immunity, again, please learn about it and find out why that may not be the issue that many people blithely assume it is. We are NOT monsters who do not care about other children, or immune-compromised people, or any other folks at risk - we were persuaded by the scientific sources that we read that it (herd immunity) was not the uncomplicated issue that most people believe it to be.
Although the book is now ten years old, please consider reading "Immunization: History, Ethics, Law and Health" by Catherine Diodati. This book began as her Master's thesis and provides an amazing (and accessible to the layperson) background to the medical and ethical issues at stake. It is a great starting point.
We are not stupid. We are not uninformed. We are not granola-crunching, tree-hugging, Birkenstock-wearing nutcases. We're both business professors, for goodness' sake. And we have been made to feel like criminals because we choose to inform ourselves and make a balanced decision.
Fri, 2009-04-10 18:18
Excellent post! Thank you. Especially for the book link. My husband was pro vax and I wasn't sure.....so we researched the topic. Our conclusion: NO vaccines for our baby!
Fri, 2010-03-12 15:22
Thank you for this post and opinion! I am trying to educate myself for the day comes when I will be blessed with a child. I have heard of the problems that vaccines can cause. It's great to see another person advocating that there is nothing wrong with being critical and doing your own research and independent thinking!
I have a few questions of my own:
If vaccines are as good as they claim, why does anyone get upset when people decide to investigate them? Also, why is there a special 'vaccine court' for evaluating lawsuits against the pharmacuetical industry? Which other industry was able to create its own court of law in order to protect itself? Why does the industry need to be protected in the first place if the good science can support it?
Sat, 2009-04-18 06:43
I think that we are all trying to make this a black and white subject which it is not......either you vaccinate your children because they have the potential of getting a life threatening disease or you don't because they have the potential of getting autism.
Personally, I believe that vaccines have both saved a lot of people from severe childhood diseases and possible death and that the vaccinations have harmed many children (sometimes fatally) with compromised immune systems.
What we should be discussing is not whether or not our children should be vaccinated but how they should be vaccinated if we decide to vaccinate them at all. We should be demanding that the pharmaceutical companies develop and administer alternative forms of vaccinations (not ones that contain toxic stabilizers and adjuvants). We should be questioning why every baby born is being put on the same vaccination schedule as every other baby. We need to realize that every child is as different as their own individual finger prints and therefore should be vaccinated differently. Why is one baby who is 7lbs with a compromised immune system given the same dose of immunizations as the 10lb healthy, plump baby down the hall? Why do we give immunizations so early in a baby's life when there are other countries with a lower infant death rate who wait until their babies are older.
We should also question why the percentage of SID's, learning disabilities, autism, hyperactivity and many other illnesses has increased so drastically within the last 20 years. Why aren't those priorities in research? We need to force the government to put more restrictions on pharmaceutical companies so that they are not the same company doing and/or financing all of the research and development and testing. Our children deserve our fight to keep them healthier including questioning whether or not what we have been told is the right answer for them. It's time for us to do our own research and to be our children's strongest advocates.
A note: if you are concerned about your children having high levels of heavy medal in their systems, you might want to look at deodorants/antiperspirants, toothpaste and most bottled and tab water (purified water is best).
By the way, please explain to me who has proven that there is no link between autism and vaccinations? If you investigate, you might find that the research was funded by the same pharmaceutical companies who make the vaccines. It seems to me that they might have a lot to benefit if they prove that there is no link.
Also, how do you prove it? Unfortunaely, it is very difficult to do the testing to prove either way. However, why is it that the majority of autistic children have higher levels of heavy medal toxins in their systems than the so called "normal" child.
Instead of bashing Jenny McCarthy, (who by the way I've never liked but understand her point) why not listen to what she has to say instead of assuming what she has said. Jenny McCarthy is not against vaccinations- Jenny McCarthy is for more research, greener immunizations and public knowledge. Even if you are for immunizing your child and hate Jenny McCarthy, why is that wrong?
One other thing, shingles has been more active in individuals who have received the chicken pox vaccination then who have suffered from a full blown attack of chicken pox. It generally occurs in individuals with low immune systems and is a life long affliction. If you get shingles, you might want to ask yourself why your immune system is compromised as opposed to blaming the chicken pox. Also, since the cases of shingles has increased, doctor's are now recommending a shingles vaccination.
Mon, 2009-04-13 06:46
I think your comment about the need for each child to be immunized based on their own particular health and immune system is very insightful. This is a very good question. Each child's body and health is so different that it seems crazy to assume that we are asked to vaccinate them all on the same schedule.
Sat, 2009-04-18 06:46
Well, we lost a daughter 4 years ago about 6 hours after her 4 month shots. She went into convulsions and died within minutes. Adverse reactions such as these are strongly believed to be genetic. Our two children (2 & 1) are not vaccinated. We are waiting for them to be older and then we will selectively vaccinate.
For the the mother who said they'd rather have an autistic child than a dead one- autism is not the only fear parents have of vaccinations, please remember that.
Thu, 2009-04-09 14:08
Vaccines can kill too, incidentally. Not often, no. But then people do not die of most of these diseases often either.
Thu, 2009-04-09 10:56