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June 01, 2009

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Two parents enter; one parent leaves.  It's the battle of the century.  It's the war to end all wars.  Who. Will. Change. The. Poopy. Diaper?!
 
Sound a wee bit familiar?  If your family is like most, it's hard to divide up all of the the chores and childcare duties.  A lot of times, each parent feels he or she is doing all of the work.  Maggie Mason of Mighty Girl asks the panelists, "Which parent in your family has the better deal?"
 
So, who in your family is the primary caregiver and housekeeper?  Do you argue about who does what around the house?  How do you resolve such conflicts?  Join the Momversation by taking our poll and commenting.

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Anytime I start to think that "HE GETS THE BETTER DEAL...." I try really, really, really hard to put the shoe on the other foot. It doesn't always work...but, I do try. My story reads basically the same as bwankel's...with a little bit of what Maggie and Bryan do. We keep pretty good track of "who's turn it is" in our house. The hardest duty for us, with our 15 month old is who wakes up in the morning with her. Not one person in our house is a morning person. There's always flailing elbows and bony knees in the morning in regards to "who's turn it is to get up and get the breakfast ready for the kid."

In the beginning, I would say it was very different...I felt like I took on the majority of the hard work (feedings, changings, baths, household stuff, 10x more laundry, late night stuff, etc). I remember several nights of yelling "I can't do this tonight, I just CAN'T!" But, also (putting that shoe on the other foot), I was one of those moms who wouldn't let him do anything b/c he "didn't do it right." I took on the majority of the household things as well as the baby things.

We did find chores that we could share and it took several months of arguing with the man about responsibilities and effects they have on our relationship....but we did figure out some things. I do the majority of the dishes/laundry/cleaning/cooking/grocery shopping/kid stuff. BUT, he does help do the things that I hate doing. He helps hang up and fold clean laundry. He will do grocery shopping if I need him to. Some Saturdays, he wakes up early with the babe and takes her out on "errands" so that I can catch a few extra hours of sleep.

I also think that sharing the parental responsibilities got a lot easier after our baby became more mobile, attentive, interactive and toddler-like because my husband took more interest in the kid who does "tricks." haha. I always say how much I miss the baby days, and he always reminds me how much fun she is now. It's just a different way of looking at things that has helped us tremendously.

After reading these comments and seeing the vids, i'm thinking that baby 2 (whenever, if ever that happens) will be a lot easier to manage b/c we'll have the experience and we'll know what to expect from each other. The first ones are hard, though!

Wed, 2009-06-10 08:59

 

Wed, 2009-06-03 18:55

 

Having twins is a sure fire way to ensure that this inequality doesn't happen! From day one it has been a team effort and because (sadly) my babes don't nurse, it has been more even. With the exception of those first three months where I was dedicated to pumping and I was up longer in the middle of the night because of it, there hasn't been an issue. I have never had the "luxury" of judging how poorly my husband changes a diaper or washes a bottle. He is just as clumsy as I am.

Now that I'm staying home and he works, there are just two different flavors of suck. I never get a moment off, for me chill time is dealing with one child instead of two, but I can wear my PJs all day if I want. Eric is always "on", whether it's proving himself at work, having the pressure of being the primary bread winner or coming home, dropping his stuff and taking a baby off my hands. He does get to go out in to the world though and gets to converse with grown ups.

We both have our ups and downs, but I am lucky in that it is both equal. Sadly, neither of us are "getting ours". It's been six months and we still haven't hired a babysitter yet so we can go on a date for Christ Sakes!

Wed, 2009-06-03 15:50

 

This one is easy for me- I get the better deal because I get much more time with the Beef. We decided before having kids that one of us would stay home to raise them. It fell to me, as my husband had a better earning potential than me (unless I stayed in the military, which wasn't an option. I couldn't handle being deployed with kids). Its just as well, cause while Abe would be just as competent (if not better) as a full time parent, the house would be in utter chaos if he was in charge of it. He is a consumate rummager with a serious physical handicap- the complete inability to place dirty socks INTO the laundry basket. And lord, what he thinks passes as "clean"...
Abe earns 100% of the money. I do 98% of the housework. When we are all together, he does most of the parenting while I tackle household jobs that would be too much to juggle with the kiddo. He cooks when it strikes his fancy. He's in charge of home repairs, I'm in charge of yard stuff including mowing and the dreaded pooper scoop detail. I pull all of the night duty, barring complete disaster nights which have been very few. This seems very fair to me, because I can ignore the dishes and nap when the babe does if I need to, while Abe's boss would not appreciate him ignoring his work to catch up on missed sleep.
Thankfully, I have a man that fully understands that I WORK just like he does, and my job is 24/7 where his is around 50 hours a week. So when he gets home he kicks into Daddy Duty until bedtime, and Thursdays are my night completely off. We switch off on Sunday mornings, so every other week I get to sleep in. So I'm very lucky there- he can pitch in and help with my job. I can't go to work for him.
Now, anyone know of any therapists that can work on this sock issue with my darling?

Wed, 2009-06-03 11:09

 

I LOVE what nicoleballet said. Perfect.

I try to communicate with my husband but he has his ears tuned to, "hear what I want to not what you want me to." He without a doubt has the better end of the deal.

He works yes, an office job where he gets to leave when he wants, talks to other grown ups and surfs the net all day. It's not that I don't appreciate his work, but come on.

So I'm cleaning the house, taking care of the baby (who incidentally I adore), washing clothes, etc. and he comes home and messes it all up again. Sometimes I want to cram a banana in his tailpipe, if you know what I'M saying.

Mon, 2009-06-01 22:07

 

I think for us, we have to have an agreement up front. Otherwise we get into the same old conversation:

"Why aren't you helping me?"
"You didn't ASK me to help, if you ask me, I'll do it. No problem."
"Why do I need to ask, can't you SEE that I need help?"
"Everything looks fine to me. Just tell me what you need me to do."
"I don't WANT to tell you what to do. You are an adult, you should KNOW what to do already!"

etc.

etc.

ETC.

Or he'd does the thing where he stands around waiting for instructions. Otherwise known as, doing nothing and watching me do crap. Awesome.

"Baby needed TWELVE lemons. TWELVE!"

Mon, 2009-06-01 14:01

 

Okay In the beginning i def had a better Deal when we adopted our daughter she was a newborn I was a SAHM and he would work all day and then come home eat and then sleep till 10 pm after that I went to bed and he was on Night duty this was his idea. He wanted me rested so i could deal with a new baby all day and he also wanted time to bond with his daughter needless to say my daughter is a Daddys girl. Down side is he is the fun parent Upside is i get breaks alot cause she wants Daddy. Now that Im working My husband has a better deal I guess but he also works more OT than me at work.

Now we both work he helps with house duties but i do most of the cooking bathing and homework and such with our 5yr old daughter.When she is sick and he wants to help alot but i don't tend to want it because My daughter actually wants Mommy.

Mon, 2009-06-01 13:27

 

I was in Hawaii living with family when my daughter was born, and my partner was living in Oregon. He was there for 5 days before she was born, and 2 days after and then he went home; we were picking out her name as he was on his way to the airport. My family was hell bent on teaching lil' ol' teen-mom me a lesson, so all baby duties and and my share of the housework and cooking was on me for the four months until I moved back to Oregon. By then, of course, we'd established our own routines and she didn't know anybody but me, so she'd scream bloody murder when he tried to do anything for a while.

Now she's two and of course loves him to death. We're very different people in terms of what's important to us (he starches work shirts and irons jeans, cooks five-star meals and vacuums twice a day; I don't buy anything that can't be thrown in the washer and dryer, go swimming more days a week than I cook and only recently learned you can change the vacuum setting to what depth of carpet you have) but somehow we make it work. I kill the spiders, clean up the puke, pay the bills and do most of the driving errands. He does...most of the rest of it.

Gosh, I have it nicer than I thought. To be fair though, I work a nine-to-five seven days a week, and he has weekends off. So that counts for something, right?

Mon, 2009-06-01 12:38

 

how do we divide the labor in our home? With the words: "I did it last time."

We both work because his job pays more, but my job has insurance, Sooo, no one gets to stay home with the baby although we both would love to. So we just use our heads and try to see, have I been at work all day, and he's had the baby? then it's my turn. And Vice versa.

On the occasions when e cannot remember whos turn it is to change a diaper to give a bottle, we use the fool-proof rock, paper, scissors approach. best 3 out of 5, and not whining when you lose.

works like a charm.

Mon, 2009-06-01 11:52

 

I love your rock-paper-scissors approach. I can never win though, because my hubs has some kind of r-p-s voodoo and he uses it shamelessly to inflict his will on me. Also, I'm a really sore loser, and it doesn't help that he's a well practised gloater. So we stick to r-p-s for fun. A poopy diaper on the line would just be too much for me to take.

Fri, 2009-06-05 04:29

 

My first inclination was to insist that my husband DEFINITELY had the better end of the deal. Since I breastfed my son when he was born and I took 12 weeks off work, I was the one on night duty for feedings for the first three months. That was somewhat of a bad habit to start, because, though I have been back to work for over a year, anytime our son needs one of us in the night, I'm the one that goes.

Then Maggie was saying something about some mothers not letting the father help, and I realized that, as far as nights go, that's totally me. My husband has gotten up with the baby when I've been sick, or after I had surgery when our son was 6 months old, and the entire time, I would lay in bed just KNOWING that he was doing it wrong. Because there's a right way and a wrong way to change a diaper, right? But I'd lay there worrying: "Is he changing the diaper first? Because if he doesn't change the diaper first, the baby will NEVER go back to sleep. You CANNOT feed him first. Please, dear GOD let him be changing the diaper first. Maybe I should get up and check." Also in his defense is that he's up early with the baby on weekends so Mommy can sleep in. And I love him for that.

So as far as parenting goes, he has it easy because I'm too neurotic to just let him do it his way. I think I've made the care of the child my domain, justifying it by saying that he's the breadwinner and I don't have the stress of keeping all of us fed, clothed and sheltered.

Having said that, I do work, too, mainly to provide insurance for my family, and, between the baby and work, the cleanliness of my house suffers. I totally identify with Dana when she says that if I'm in charge of the baby AND the housework, then you need to make enough money for me to not have to work. I'll even amend that and say that I need to be able to quit or hire a maid. Either way would be fine by me.

Mon, 2009-06-01 11:39

 

My husband works for a start-up company so, needless to say, he's got some crazy hours (he was, in fact, taking phone calls 6 hours after our son was born. in the hospital.) He's usually rushing to catch the bus while I'm changing the first diaper or feeding our 1 year old breakfast, and he gets home about 30 minutes before baby goes to bed. I do EVERYTHING.

However, the company he works for is very lucrative, they are doing VERY well, they will soon go public and it will all pay off. I just have to hold on for dear life as I do all the grunt work during our child's first 2 years of life. He's working hard so we can have a better future, and given that, there's not a whole lot I can say.

BUT, he has the better deal. For sure. I am at home feeding, changing, bathing, clothing, cooking, cleaning, buying groceries, going to the doctor/vet/library/neighborhood meetings, running after baby AND working full time from home. He goes to an office and sits at a computer. Then he comes home and sits at a computer.

Poopy diapers? Well, his gag reflex is such that I do them all. I'd rather change a poopy diaper than clean up puke and then change a poopy diaper. I'd just like it if the man unloaded the dishwasher without being asked. Just once.

Mon, 2009-06-01 11:05

 

After our first child was born, I was pleasantly surprised to watch as my husband took on many of the household and childcare duties. I was breastfeeding, but in an effort to "share" in the experience, my husband would change our son's diaper prior to each feeding (even in the middle of the night) and then bring our son to me. We took turns bathing our son. We split the housework.

Now that our second child is here, I feel like the household chores and childcare are much more on my shoulders than my husband's. (Even though I'm still working full-time, outside the home.) My husband is generally willing to take on chores if I specifically assign them, but he doesn't initiate simple things (diaper changes, unloading the dishwasher, etc) like he used to.

I completely agree with Alice that it seems that, in our society, dads are wildly praised for doing the simplest things, and Moms never seem to be. I even find myself making a specific point of thanking my husband if he spends even an hour alone with our kids, so I can go do something else. I, of course, don't get the same thanks for the work I do every day.

Don't get me wrong, my husband is a great dad. But, this panel discussion brings up some excellent points. It makes me feel better to know that other moms feel the same way I do.

Mon, 2009-06-01 10:52

 

It's kind of a draw at our house. However, what a great topic for exactly this date because my better deal starts today! It's the first day that my husband is at home, from now through August because he's a teacher and classes are out. He's taking one continuing education course and later in the summer teaching one course, but other than that, he's at home, which means that he'll do dishes, laundry and childcare - mostly without complaint. And that is a great thing, because I'm stuck with all those plus working two part-time jobs and going to grad school during the school year. I supposedly (according to my husband) also have the better deal then too, because my schedule is more "flexible," but that's not how I feel. I totally respect and understand my husband's point of view, though, because he does teach at a high school during the day and at a college four nights a week (it used to be 2; this next semester, he'll be doing 4 and I'll be doing... housework). So I guess it's kind of fair.... but I just feel like if I have to work and go to school two nights a week, I would really like it if he'd cook dinner, do laundry, scrub toilets or anything else house-related on his own. He says he does his part by cutting the grass in summer, which I guess is true too, but well... Even in summertime, I somehow seem to end up doing those things too, even if it's less than during the school year.

Mon, 2009-06-01 11:11

 

I'm not even sure I HAVE a deal? Where can I get a deal?

My boyfriend did a lot of cooking which was awesome—he's a professional chef—but we can't in good conscience ask for that since we've broken up. My kids have no idea what horrors await them at mealtime.

Mon, 2009-06-01 08:03

 

My husband has the better deal. When my daughter was born I did everything. I breastfed so obviously he couldn't feed her or get up in the middle of the night to feed her. At first I had no problem doing everything. It was just natural to me. I am afraid I set a bad precedent because now my daughter is 6 months old and I wish my husband would help out a little more. Do you really have to sit down at the computer for an hour right when you get home from work or could you spend some time with your kid first?!? Is it really that hard to put that dish in the dishwasher? It's hard enough picking up after a very busy baby, let alone a messy husband. We've had some conversations about it and I will admit he is trying to be better. She is eating solid foods now and doesn't need me for every feeding. I have noticed that he is more willing to take her off my hands now that she is more playful and can interact with him. It's a hard act to balance. Sometimes I have to remind myself that I have a husband who loves me and our daughter, who works hard to provide for us, and that I am not always the easiest person to get a long with. This has been the list of events that has happened in the past year in order: He got a new job, we got married and moved in together, got pregnant on the honeymoon, bought a new house, and had a baby. I'm pretty sure all of those things are on the list of the most stressful things in life. I think it will take us a while to figure things out. Right now I'm just trying to enjoy my daughter as she is growing up.

Mon, 2009-06-01 07:24

 

I think in most traditional setups, the dad gets the better deal. Mom carries, delivers and nurses/cares for the baby from the get, so it's hard for dad to get in there anywhere. I think in my particular case - we have a 6.5 year old and almost 2 year old...and he definitely gets the better deal. I think its something we've both grown to accept though. I work from home, I work a full 40+ hour week, here from home for an outside company. So we save on daycare, that's the deal we made when we had kids. I'd figure out how to balance the working and kid care in order to save that for us. He does the lawn mowing, pool vaccuming and car stuff. I do the dishes, laundry, all kid stuff, bills, etc. It's not an even setup, I don't think it really can be. I feel a little bit like someone said where sometimes I don't want him to do particular things because he won't do it the way I want, and I accept that as a flaw within myself, not him. Of course I wish he changed more diapers, got up early so I could sleep/shave, fed the girls ever. But sometimes, its just how things fall. And in the end, we both (or all three) get to sit on the couch and watch the toddler walk around with a happy meal box on her head and laugh. And those are the parts that really matter.

Mon, 2009-06-01 06:13

 

Okay, so our "kid" is a dog (an adorable but hyper 1.5 yr old Jack Russell / Border Collie mix) BUT I have to admit, I have the better deal. I work part time so I can try to launch my career as an author, and Andy is the breadwinner. He is also the bread-MAKER -- meaning he cooks all the meals because I am a DISASTER in the kitchen. (I do dishes, though!) He also does laundry and vacuums. I pick up things (like his shorts or wet towels) and put stuff away. I take out the trash and recycling. I run errands. We grocery shop together. And I have probably 65% of dog duty while he takes about 35%. So I'm more of the "parent" but he handles everything else, and I have to admit, I feel like I have a pretty sweet deal. I don't think our (im)balance will always be this way, but it's nice that he helps provide me with the opportunities to achieve my dreams. :)

Mon, 2009-06-01 05:41

 
 

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