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December 08, 2008

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Did I ask for your opinion? Rebecca Woolf from Girl's Gone Child is tired of all the unsolicited advice she gets about raising her child. So, today on Momversation, she asks the panelists how they deal with people's unwanted comments. What do you think; should you butt in or butt out? Is there ever a time when you should comment on someone's child rearing? Join in the Momversation by commenting below or talking back in our forums:

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Wed, 2010-03-03 18:36

 

I live in Kenya and gave birth here. While in the hospital I was told not to drink soda because it would burst my sutures. I've been told to cover my baby, because she is cold in 80 degree heat. I've been tempted to start saying that Americans don't get cold.
www.redearthsafari.blogspot.com

Tue, 2010-01-26 08:21

 

Oh, I was also told when I took my baby in a plane that on the ascent if she wasn't nursing her eardrums would burst and she would go deaf. A lot of people told me that. Scared the sh*t out of me. Just so you know she didn't even peep on any ascent or descent. I think it's true that sucking will help with equalizing your ears (popping), but deaf? C'mon. Even worse I believed 'em.

Tue, 2010-01-26 08:25

 

I had a woman behind me in line at a Walgreens take my infant daughter's favorite teething toy out of her hands/mouth while saying "it will make her choke". WTF????????? I grabbed it back from Crazy Lady, said "It's FINE" and gave it back to my daughter (though come to think of it I probably should have boiled it first).

Another one, while in a department store Italy a mother/daughter tag-team approached my husband and me to inform us that our daughter could wear shoes, OR socks, but for God's sake not shoes AND socks at the same time!!!

Sigh.

Fri, 2010-01-22 05:42

 

the only time I say something is if they are beating on their kids or just simply yelling at them for long periods of time calling the child names.
Otherwise, I totally stay out of it.
Being an abuse survivor, I feel like kids dont have a voice so I will say something.
http://www.papermoonies.blogspot.com

Tue, 2009-04-28 08:26

 

I will say that I have opinions on just about everything and I admit that I judge other mothers/parents....HOWEVER...I don't and won't tell you that unless asked specifically for my opinion/advice on the topic. I believe that your parenting, good or bad is your business, and I fully understand that good and bad are relative terms and mean something different to everyone.

Do I hate it when someone tells me how to be a parent? Yes I hate it and they should shut their face. I smile and uh huh them until they shut up and then switch topics. I have never felt the need to validate what they've said by an "excuse" or an explaination because frankly, it's not their business just like it's not my business. Parenting is hard work and a different experience for everyone because every child is different. I have had several friends and family members ask me for help/advise and I always start with, "What worked for Shelby was..." there is no one way to do something that works for every kid. I agree with Daphne, a lot of times it's how you say it.

Fri, 2009-04-24 13:51

 

That's usually how I frame stuff. "What worked for me..." It validates that person's intelligence and everyone's individual experience. I HATE unmitigated advice.
www.redearthsafari.blogspot.com

Tue, 2010-01-26 08:28

 

I have a hard time with strangers who offer me random parenting advice, because 99% of the time none of them have had a clue what they are talking about.

Why do I say that? My son looks like a typical child, but he has special needs. So the fact that he may not be:

-able to count by fives
-didn't come the first time I called him
-gets overstimulated by grocery stores
-walking when he's almost 2
-has trouble standing in line
-can't ice skate

are for a REASON. When people insinuate that he's unintelligent, lazy, undisciplined, has ADHD (or any other random disability) etc from seeing him for all of 3 minutes, I get really irritated. I used to have a few smart come backs handy, but now that he's 13, he has his own. For instance, to the woman who made him count nickels (when he was 10 ) and then commented that he was unintelligent because he couldn't,

"I have a learning disability in math which makes it really hard to count by fives and so I'm doing the best I can. You wouldn't ask an adult to do this, would you?"

People need to realize that sometimes the kids who are acting out may look typical, but are not and the parent is doing the best they can under the circumstances.

Sun, 2009-01-11 10:04

 

The comment about he little monkey on the jungle gym really hit home with me. My son is growth hormone deficient. He looked like he was about 9 months old until he was 2, when he started his shots.

I used to get horrified looks all the time!

I think the "best" unsolicited advice came while at Whataburger. My son was about 4 months old. I was giving him his bottle when a random woman flew out of the blue and said "How can you feed your child that poison? A good mother always breastfeeds!"

I looked at her and said, "Thank you for your concern, I really wanted to breastfeed my son, but he was born 2 months early and couldn't be nursed directly. I pumped for two months, but couldn't keep up a supply and tried every lactation-inducing drug on the market. None worked. We're just thankful he's alive, but thank you for your concern."

I believe her response was "errraarrrhrrrh, have a nice day"

Of course, I will agree with what someone said that when we have blogs about our family we do leave ourselves open to conversations about our parenting skills.

Tue, 2008-12-16 10:17

 

Yes, this is tricky. Because sometimes we ASK for help and advice, but we reject it if it's not what we want to hear. If we don't already trust and respect the person, we're more likely to think of a reason to disagree, no matter WHAT they suggest.

So even if someone asks for help, I have found it wise to enter in very reluctantly and with very few words.

If I see a mom at the market who is at her wit's end with her child whose terrorizing her, I will cheerfully say, "OK, How can I help?" I've had moms start bawling because they're so grateful that I offered real assistance rather than advice or judgment.

If I sense the mom really doesn't want help, just a break, I'll comment on the little girl's shoes (they love that) or the little boy's toy (they usually have one). Sometimes just the change of a new person in the picture alone is enough to break the tension between the mother and child. Whatever works, right?

One mom asked me to go get a glass of water. One asked me to go to the back of the store and grab a dozen eggs. And I do it cheerfully. Because I remember having two under two in a grocery cart.

So it may be more about intention. Is it one of genuine empathy or one of judgment? That really speaks volumes, doesn't it?

Sincerely yours in parenting success,
Debra Sale Wendler
Respect Effect Mom
http://www.adhdparentingsuccess.com

Wed, 2008-12-10 13:25

 

The best, I mean worst unsolicited advice I received went like this. I was at the grocery store. My daughter dropped her binky. I used the three second rule for the millionth time. I picked that binky up, wiped it on my puke stained shirt and stuck it back in her mouth. The dreaded "little old lady with blue hair" screamed at me, "I'm calling DHS, you are abusing your child. I'm going to follow you to the parking lot and get your tag # to call DHS." I looked that lady right in the eyes and said. "Go ahead, because the day I found this beautiful baby under the bunny hutch eating bunny shit, is the day that I decided that picking up that binky is not sooooo bad." She did follow me to the car as I continued to pick up that binky and put it back in my babies mouth. I never had a visit from DHS. That baby is now 16. She lives, she's beautiful, she's driving a car. AHHHHHH, SCARY. Now I need some advice.

Wed, 2008-12-10 10:13

 

My son is 6 months and so far, I've been spared any unsolicited advice. I got a TON while I was pregnant though, so annoying. Like, "If you keep rubbing your belly the baby will turn over and be breech". Uh-huh. I hope I don't ever have to deal with it as a mother. I can't believe the nerve of some people to say such things. I mean, who do they think they are?

Tue, 2008-12-09 13:51

 

And if we all weren't laughing about flipping off the old lady, the line of blow comment from pcgeek did it! I am still curious as to how other people handle it? I don't give unsolicited advice, but LOTS of other people give it to me and I usually want to stick out my tongue at them. (don't bother trying it, it doesn't work) I am also curious as to how the parent coach handles getting advice? Do you hand over your credentials, or do you just smile and nod? Thanks for bringing this one up, ladies!

Tue, 2008-12-09 12:20

 

It depends...when a neighbor cautioned me that having my newborn outside on a windy day (under doctors orders to get direct sunlight for Billy Rubin count) without a covering would cause him to get gas, I smiled and nodded in a "thanks for your concern, but I'll take it from here," way. When my MIL suggested that maybe pumping was just not worth the trouble (my son never directly nursed, I pumped for 10 months) I said, "If you actually are concerned at how he is turning out, tell me and we'll discuss it." People have opinions and assessment about EVERYTHING you do. It's the "fate of the race" element of parenting that have others compelled to share-out loud, the rest just do it in our heads, right?
When it comes to being a coach, I know that the moment a parent feels I judge them as lacking, they will not let me contribute to them. It helps to keep that in mind.

Tue, 2008-12-09 19:50

 

I'm going to take Alice's advice and just start flipping off that little old lady.

Is that still appropriate if it's my boss?

Tue, 2008-12-09 09:16

 

I completely agree, it's ridiculous how much it just comes along when you don't expect it. Rather than just ignore the comments though I try to make sure the person gets the hint that their advice is unnecessary. One time someone told my I should not let my son have a sip, one single sip, of my soda (which he ended up hating anyway) because it's not good to start him on soda with all the sugar and caffine. I simply explained that it's the only thing I had at the time and he needed something to drink because the line of blow he just did made the back of his throat dry. They left me alone after that.

Tue, 2008-12-09 09:16

 

Just wanted to share... The comment about flipping off the old lady totally made my morning.

Tue, 2008-12-09 07:56

 

I think there's a double edged sword here. Because I totally understand how annoying unsolicited advice can be and when somebody comes up to you off the street and begins informing you how to live your life, it's very hard not to shove their head up their ass. But -- I promise I didn't sing it! ^_^ -- when you blog, the assumption is that you want commentary about whatever you posted that day. That's why blogs have comment sections. And when you blog about your children, it's sort of a subliminal solicitation for that commentary, in all the many forms it takes on.

I'm not telling you not to blog about your children, because that's what you all do so well and I love reading it. Just remember, most of the people who offer unsolicited advice really are well-meaning. I think a lot of intention gets lost in the delivery.

Mon, 2008-12-08 20:48

 

Love you guys. You give us all license to bitch. Thanks!

Mon, 2008-12-08 20:08

 

I admit it! I was a sanctimonious unsolicited-advice-giving 17 year old babysitter! And I'm darn proud.

On my seventeenth summer I babysat for a woman who had three kids, ages 2, 4, and 6. Whenever I babysat them at night, she’d remind me to give them their “Night Nights” to knock them out (her words)... "Night Nights", of course, being large dropperfulls of children’s Benedryl. (!!!!!!) Before they brushed their teeth, these kiddos would stand there like baby birds, mouths open, waiting to be drugged to sleep. Every single night.

At the time I held my tongue and silently chose not to give them the medicine. I checked the dosage after she left, and she was overdosing all three of them. When I told the kids that we were skipping Night Nights (no explination, just that I wasn't going to do it), they fretted and moped and couldn’t sleep.

After a few times like this, I told the mother that I refused to drug her children and that I thought that what she was doing was wrong and unsafe. She fired me.

At 24, I’m fairly impressed that my painfully insecure 17 year old self was able to suck it up and do that. I only wish I'd done something more.

Mon, 2008-12-08 15:22

 

This is why I exist, yet I know there is not a fine line, there is a HUGE difference between looking for (then finding) answers to your parenting challenges and being the one given unsolicited advice. As a Parent Coach, I am clear that without being invited to comment on a parenting interaction, I'm off the clock. The harder thing for parents to deal with is the unspoken personal judgement that seems goes along with these "helpful hints" given by non-professionals. That's why it bothers us so.

Another point, consider this flaw in the arguement: what business is it of yours how I raise my child, if it doesn't affect you? First, your child does not belong to you, they were entrusted to you so you could create your best version of someone's husband, someone's wife, someone's parent. What kind of job would they want you to do? It is an empowering place to come from as a parent. Second, the type of adult you produce certainly does affect me. They may marry my child, live in my community, work for my company, contribute something great to the world, so we all have a vested interest in how a child becomes an adult.

Recently I was with my son (6) at a store. We witnessed some skin crawling parenting moments that had him actually start to go over and say something himself! When I stopped him, he pleaded with me, "Why don't you help them? They are so mean to him!" My answer was that without being invited, I was powerless to do that. So, know that this Coach did shut up and will continue to when it is inappropropriate.

By being a parenting coach, I'm clear that I am no superhero that can swoop in and save families, but my hope is that that little boy will have access to my book and program when he becomes a parent and connect with it. Thanks for the great conversation... www.licensed2parent.com

Mon, 2008-12-08 13:32

 
Pat

OMG, I would send this Vlog to all the village idiots in the world!!!

Mon, 2008-12-08 07:01

 

Maybe it "takes a village", but unfortunately there are a lot of village idiots.

Mon, 2008-12-08 05:51

 
 

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