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January 07, 2009

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With marriage, there are arguments, compromises, and the dreaded D-word: divorce.  With motherhood comes a slew of responsibilities from potty training to PTA meetings.  Both roles are difficult, but Heather Armstrong from Dooce wants to know from the panelists, "Which do you find more challenging: being a wife or being a mother?"
 
Which role do you find the toughest?  Or can you even choose?  Do you find yourself neglecting your mate?  Or is marriage a walk in the park compared to being a parent?  Join the Momversation.

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Thu, 2010-03-04 10:39

 
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Wed, 2010-03-03 18:03

 

I feel like as a mother, I have a defined role. I am mama, I wipe their noses, give them medicine when they're sick, wipe their bums, cuddle them often and am always available for hugs.
Being a mom is so much easier because (ideally) you know what you're supposed to do.
As a wife, I think it's much harder because how does one define the term wife?
I am a wife, but being a wife entails more responsibility, at least in my relationship, than being a mother. Kids are easy, and you can sate them or their needs (usually) pretty easily.
My husband expects a lot from me and sometimes I feel it's too much. We argue about the same crap and then come back to it later again and again.
A lot of the issues we have stem from my inability to clean properly... frankly, I don't care. I consider my house clean but he wants it sparkling. He wants the house cleaner, I'd rather take care of my children.
I'm always looking for the next big adventure and he's happy to keep things the way they are. It's harder (for me) to be a wife than a mother...

Nathalie

Wed, 2009-02-18 11:31

 

What is really hard is being GREAT at both, being a good wife and a good mother.
Both are valuable relationships that must be nurtured, my husband and my children want my attention and love and they both deserve all the attention and love I can give them.

Thu, 2009-01-15 07:44

 

As others have said, my husband is pretty easygoing and reasonable, while my kids are not! That makes parenting much harder for me.

Tue, 2009-01-13 13:10

 

Ah, being a wife is much harder - to me. My experience has been that having work than being a good parent (ok, maybe I'll change my mind when my five kids are older and they go to therapy to talk about their mom).
But, marriage requires a lot of work. My husband is in the military and he is gone so often I find it tough to get used to him being here and being gone.
My kids are sort of an extension of me..... Italian style, that's where I was born and raised, so it's visceral
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Sun, 2009-01-11 22:56

 

My marriage has never actually been without children. In the beginning, there was his teenage daughter and the kids from the therapeutic group home that he ran in our home. In those years, I let Hubs run the show because it had been his job for so long and he knew what he was doing. I was barely out of my teens myself, and so not ready to be a parent. I was more like big sister.

(by the way, my Hubs and I have a 20 year age difference so that probably was part of it)

When we had our own child together, things changed. It took awhile for Hubs and I to be "on the same page", mostly from our own generational differences. I will still say that marriage has been so easy compared to being a parent. Our son has some special needs that went undiagnosed for years. For YEARS I thought it was somehow my fault, and that I sucked as a Mom. In the midst of that were lay offs, near deaths, serious injury, financial crisis, moves, going back to university, and job changes.I can fully understand now how those types of stresses can tear families apart, but for us it only made us more fiercely solid.

During those years we took on a school district for Jake, and that was the most stressful thing ever. You don't have a diagnosis for your child, everyone thinks they know (whether they are qualified or not), your child is at the end of their rope, and you just want to take them and run. At the worst point, for a split second, I actually considered suicide. It was THAT bad.

Marriage has been easy. Parenthood, especially to a child with special needs in those early years, has been the hardest road I've ever navigated in my life; albeit the most rewarding.

Sun, 2009-01-11 09:47

 
DJ

No question... being a wife is harder.

I know that if I invest a whole lot of time and energy to teach my son to potty train, he will eventually get it. Some spills along the way, but I do see progress. My efforts, though very exhausting, are not in vain.

My husband has been throwing rolled up dirty socks into the laundry hamper for 7 years...

Sat, 2009-01-10 21:16

 

I'm amazed at how black and white the answers are for most posters/commenters. It seems day-by-day one is easier than the other and it's a crap shoot which one it will be. There are days that I feel a huge failure at both. But, then there are those days - can be few and far between - where everything just clicks and those are the ones that that stand out the most and keep me loving being a wife and mom. The Hub is brooding and introverted - totally hot when in your late teens, completely annoying now that I'm nearing 30. But we are getting much better at it having 14 yrs. behind us and 6 yrs. married. With a 2 and 4-yr-old, one boy, one girl I'm trying to put everything in perspective and enjoy them and my husband now, while we are all fumbling around together. Lots of love and patience - though extremely hard to muster sometimes - is all we have most days.

Sat, 2009-01-10 16:31

 

Hmm... something to think about. As a fairly newly married wife (a year and a half) we are trying to get pregnant with our first child. Marriage hasn't been too terribly different from dating as we dated for a while. But I worry that having a child will change things and be a lot more difficult than getting married was. Perhaps I worry too much... Definitely interesting to hear the perspective of others.

Tabitha
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Sat, 2009-01-10 06:42

 

Tough but good question.I'd say the first 2 years of each are both very hard, at least they were for me. I, like Heather, really was unprepared for what the reality of mothering might be. Since my daughter was born within a year of marriage the two hard times overlapped. However, I find now that I have an easier time mothering and marriage can be a grinding down experience which is useful but painful.

Sat, 2009-01-10 05:56

 

For me; parenting has been terrifying. Marriage was easy for us. We met around Halloween, were engaged on New Years and got married by Memorial Day. (Thats an October, January and May relationship people.)

Everyone told us we were making the mistake of our lives. But years later I am embarrassing everyone by STILL BEING WITH HIM. And I'll never regret it.

Its an unfair advantage. We've had a raging connection since the night we met. So of course, for us, marriage has been easier.

NOT EASY. Just... easiER.

Parenting has been really scary for me because I don't want to screw my kid up. I don't know what else to say about that... he's only 2 months old.

Fri, 2009-01-09 20:54

 

Fantastic video Ladies!!!

For me, the difficulty is when both jobs merge. Being a wife was easy when that's all I was. But as soon as I got busy being a mom, I was like... are you kidding me? I'm busy being a good mom! LOL

Susan

Fri, 2009-01-09 17:00

 
Teo'smommy

I totally feel the same way. My 7 month old is my top priority right now and it seems like whatever i do, it is not good enough for my hubby. Last night he told me that he didn't love me anymore and that if i had let his parents take our boy once a week overnight and during the day so that we could have "us" time our bond would not be gone.I still cook great meals, take care of our pet and keep the house spotless. he thinks i am selfish because I have a hard time letting our son go. i do not know what to do....any ideas?

Sat, 2010-02-20 11:02

 

I don't even know where to begin on this topic!

I agree with Heather in that at least my husband doesn't scream or wake me up like my 5 month old. And he doesn't throw tantrums like my 2 year old. But I have much more patience and can pull from some endless energy reserve for my kids because they are children. They need me. They are helpless. It's my responsibility to deal with them and love them even if they aren't acting very likable. And for me that comes naturally.

But my husband is an adult and when he acts in a way that is not likable - he is doing that as a rational and purposeful person. So when we disagree about something, that on top of my exhaustion from raising two kids makes it really really hard to deal with sometimes. Getting married a little older too, we both have a difficult time compromising sometimes. And it is hard to change habits.

My husband and I basically have to talk every few weeks about focusing on us as a unit. We have to nurture this relationship, for ourselves and for our kids' sake. That means kindness and respect plus getting good time alone. You can't just table the relationship while you are in survival mode with little ones (and with my husband's demanding job). I sometimes stop and say to myself and my husband, if we keep on this track we are going to grow apart. Too many nights we find ourselves burnt out, one of us with the remote and the other surfing the web.

I also think it's easier to be married with kids when you have more disposable income. If I didn't have to stress that each time we go on a date it's basically a few hundred dollars with the babysitting costs, we'd do it much more often. If we were able to go sit on a beach a few times a year without kids and reconnect, that would do wonders. However, you also have to learn how to enjoy each other, make time for one another, while you are also living the normal daily grind.

Anyway, great topic and congrats on getting in the NYT Motherlode blog!

Fri, 2009-01-09 14:32

 

I definitely find it harder to be a mother than a wife.

I think what's missing for me in the motherhood thing is famliy support. My husband and I live as expats in Ukraine, so it's just us, with the support of other expats - who are great friends, but really can't replace family.

Our little family has had its ups and downs in the first four months - I had our daughter in Australia, and because of work committments on his part and post partum health issues on mine, we were seperated from my husband for five weeks until we could get on the plane and rejoin him in Ukraine. All of these things really contributed to me finding motherhood a real challenge.

My husband and I can fight and fight about the same things, but having lived here for the past 2.5 years and having been unable to find work, I think I have the wife thing finely honed. My husband tends to agree that I am good at being a wife, and that I've had my struggles in these first four months of parenthood!

He, however, finds it harder to be a husband :) I must have high expectations or something...

Fri, 2009-01-09 13:26

 

mmmkay.

short, straight-forward answer: being a good mom is easier.

Being a good wife? I guess that depends on the quality of the marriage & the people involved. Since I was married to a type-A loser-creep, it was not only difficult to be a good wife, but totally impossible.

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Fri, 2009-01-09 13:26

 

Not sure how to do Trackbacks, but here is my response. I'm from a subgroup of women who survived infertility and arrived at parenthood.

http://weebleswobblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/which-is-more-difficult.html

Fri, 2009-01-09 13:00

 

i have needed a solid day to marinate on this momversation... and i still am not sure i can produce a coherent response. :)~ but i'll try... for me, right now, my marriage feels so much harder than my being a mom. my husband and i have been together since highschool, so one would think that we know all there is to know about eachother, but as life changes and circumstances change, etc, people change. we have been married for over 4 years and i feel like i am in a constant state of adjustment. however, when it comes to motherhood, i felt very innately adequate and kinda just did it. i think i have to agree with alice when she mentioned how easy it is to neglect a marriage, but not a child. both my husband and i go in to a hibernation mode when things get tough... and things get tough a lot for us, being that he is in the navy and we move a lot. that being said, our hibernation mode that we go in to totally lends itself well to us neglecting our marriage. when things get tough with our son, we do the exact opposite, and almost go into over-active mode and do all we can to make things better. goodness, if we could just apply one response to the other situation, we might be good... :) but it's hard. for me, it's hard. i feel i can be much more stubborn and hardheaded about things with my marriage than i can with my child. i am willing to give on so much more when it comes to our son than when it comes to my husband. like always, i have a lot to learn...

Fri, 2009-01-09 10:30

 

Heather - I loved your last comment about your marriage being a prison (tongue in cheek of course, right? (: ).
I totally understand the prison comment because before I got married, we made a deal that staying married was so important, that even if we had to live in different rooms/places we would always be married.
I think 'our generation' focuses a lot more on being a good mom (statistically, from your article) because of all the divorce we've been through. Being a kid and going through divorce totally changes you. Our kids experiences of their own families are so much more important to us because of that.
But I don't think our motivation to stay in a marriage no matter what makes us focus only on our kids. It pushes me to be so much more honest with myself about being a wife than I am comfortable with. But I go there because the alternative, the D-word, is a place I never want to be. I've been on one side of it (I was 12; my husband was also 12 when his split) and I never want to see the other.

Being a wife is hard; being a mom is hard. Being both, at the same time? That's why we need prozac.

Thu, 2009-01-08 23:50

 

I gotta say: the hours for both jobs suck.

Thu, 2009-01-08 23:07

 

I think it was easier to be a wife than it was to be a mother. Being a mom is difficult...not in caring for my son, that part is easy. But it's hard to make sure he's being stimulated enough, learning enough, etc. He's only three months...and man, being a wife for the first six and half years was much easier.

However, now that my son is here, I'm finding that it's difficult being a good wife. I sometimes feel like I now neglect my husband. For a long time it was just the two of us and then our dog. Now we have a son and he needs more of my time than my husband. But it's strange...it seems like we have sex more now than we did before I was pregnant!!

Luckily, I have a pretty easy going husband. And we have a very strong relationship. Some say it's because I'm so agreeable. I say it's because we've known each other since we were 13 (started dated at 16) and we grew up together. I'm also lucky that I have a pretty easy going baby. He's not a crier, only on cranky moments.

Okay, so I think I have it pretty easy compared to some. I'm sure when my son begins to crawl and get into things, I'm sure I'll be begging for these "easy" days!

Thu, 2009-01-08 19:19

 

Assuming that you have a happy marriage, I think that parenting is more rewarding but harder. A parent's love is unconditional. There is noting that my sons can do to make me stop loving them. If my kids decide not to return my respect or love, I'll still be there for them no matter what.

When I got married, I committed to myself to make it last forever, but if its not two sided, I would eventually have to walk away. There are things my husband can do that would make me consider my marriage.

If my kids act crazy one day, I still have to stick by them no matter how frustrated I am in order to make sure they are fed, dressed, clean etc.... If my husband gets on my nerves, I can ask for a time out from him and he'll be o.k without me for as long as I need to cool down.

Thu, 2009-01-08 19:06

 

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(how's that screen shot...horrible!) lol

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Thu, 2009-01-08 19:00

 

Thanks for the awesome comment, Sarah!  And we love the screen shot. ;)

Thu, 2009-01-08 21:24

 

I find marriage to be way tougher than motherhood. So far, I pretty much know what my children need and what makes them happy. Don't get me wrong, I stumble all the time in my mothering efforts, but I think I've done pretty well so far.
Marriage, however, is a constant challenge for me. Not that my current husband isn't a great guy, because he is. But I learned a lot from the failure of my first marriage, and I find that I often second guess myself in what I say and do in this marriage. Many times I force myself to bite my tongue when I don't want to and steam internally when I just want to go medieval on his ass about one thing or the other (usually just stupid household stuff). That being said, he's a patient soul and tries very hard to make me happy, so I'm very lucky.
In the end, and in normal circumstances, your children are nearly guaranteed to love you unconditionally even if you yell at them or make them eat their vegetables. In marriage, there are definitely conditions to love, no matter how strong that love is.

Thu, 2009-01-08 17:47

 

I think it depends on the kids and the relationship. Motherhood came (very suprisingly) easy for me. I had super easy pregnancies and kids though....still can't complain. They don't give us much grief at all. Ask me in 10 years when I have 3 daughters all in high school. I bet my answer might change.

Marriage on the otherhand has been a super hard uphill battle. One worth fighting for, though, and we're trying our damndest.

Thu, 2009-01-08 13:11

 

There are both hard- there is no stinking doubt about that. But for ME, being a mother is harder.

I am responsible for my children. They learn- basically everything- from me. That's a lot of pressure.

My husband on the other hand, he refuses to learn anything! ;)

Thu, 2009-01-08 12:42

 

Interesting topic!

For me, I'd definitely say being a significant other (not technically married in our case) is easier than being a Mom. I think it boils down to the fact that I've had a lot of practice being in an adult relationship, and only 6 months practice being a Mom.

Also, I think it's a question of responsibility. With my little guy, I can't help but feel responsible for him and that it's my job to ensure he grows up to be a confident, productive, healthy (in all forms - mental, physical, emotional etc.), respectful person. That's a tall order for anyone. I know I'll just need to provide the tools and support, safety and love, but still, it's a difficult job - there often are no right or wrong answers (for the most part). It's live and learn. I imagine that this POV will change over time as DS becomes more independent and able to be responsible for himself.

Whereas, with DH, I do not feel responsible for him...only for myself and my contribution to our relationship. Doesn't mean to say I don't try to provide and give what I can to him. But in the end, it's his responsibility to be a confident, productive, healthy and respectful person. And to tell me if I'm doing something to get in the way of him achieving that.

Also, I've acquired much more experience in handling a marriage-type relationship and all the stuff that goes with it, so I'm more confident in what I know is right for me and how to problem solve etc. Not to say it's not difficult. And not to say there aren't times when I'm stumped, frustrated or angry (often with the same old, same old, sometimes with something new). But for the most part, I know what needs to be done. It's just a question of having the courage and making the time/effort to do it.

Thu, 2009-01-08 11:28

 

It is HARD work being a mommy AND wifey especially when you have not had GOOD solid examples of either. My daughter is just like me but I find that it is easier to deal with - I can just send her to her room. My husband on the other hand.......has to sleep in the room with me.

Ok - I am still a newlywed - but it seems like we have been married at least 50 years and we are at that point where it really doesnt matter what I do as long as I give him sex when he wants it and right now there isnt much in it right now. We are working on it. My husband hasnt quite got it yet that I dont have to have sex everyday all day........it has never been something that I had to do to survive so to speak but it was moreso something that I thought guys wanted and that equated to love. Now that I am married........lord have mercy. I would rather spend the day with my hubby watching movies and playing with him......he doesnt realize it but that turns me on.

My husband doesnt really care about cleanliness but our house is always clean anyway, he loves to play videogames and that is where all of our jugular throat slashing starts.........I hate video games. and this is something that we have to deal with right now. I suffer from Romance Novel emulation syndrome -completely self diagnosed - I read tons of romance novels thoughtout my childhood so I had a warped sense of what love was. I really hoped upon hope that I would find that guy who always satisfied me sexually, was honorable, a good father deep down and his issues became character champions........then I got married and I ended up being a mom all over again minus the labor.

I was a single parent for the majority of my daughters life. I have never found this easy and it is not getting any easier. I do find that I can control her easier than my husband........so I guess motherhood to me is actually simpler......oh who the heck am I kidding.......if motherhood and marriage were easy I wouldnt even blog.

Thu, 2009-01-08 09:52

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